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Old 01-12-2012, 07:12 PM
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Default Here's why Giovanni Lorenzo will get Andy Lee

Peter Quillin is a fine young fighter. But Giovanni Lorenzo is also an excellent fighter and he deserves a shot at an HBO fight more than Quillin does. Though Quillin is undefeated, he’s also relatively untested. Giovanni has taken the tough fights (four major bouts in his opponent’s backyards, three outside the country) while they were all in there prime and shown that he is a world-class fighter.

Matthew Macklin is a great example of a fighter who took tough fights and lost but got rewarded for his good effort. When Lorenzo fought Felix Sturm in Sturms hometown Cologne for the WBA. Giovanni threw more punches than Sturm, landed about the same total amount and had a huge edge in power punches yet not one judge gave him the fight.

When he lost a split decision to Sebastian Sylvester for the IBF crown in Sylvester’s hometown in Germany (one American judge had it for us, two European judges for Sylvester) or when he fought interim WBA Champ Hassan N’Dam N’Jikam in Le Cannet, France N'Dam's home town and knocked him through the ropes and out of the ring, only to have N’Jikam get aided in getting up by a photographer and a WBA judge (that’s generally an automatic DQ – but not in France apparently, see YouTube link to round five below). It is clear Lorenzo won by KO.

"N'Dam Lorenzo round 5"

I think the only true way to compare Giovanni and Peter Quillin (since Quillin is relatively untested) is by looking at how they did against their two common opponents – Dionisio Miranda and Dennis Sharpe. Giovanni blazed Miranda out in two rounds with one wicked right hand. Quillin struggled to a ten round close decision win over Miranda and was almost knocked out in the seventh round. Both men stopped Sharpe, though Giovanni did it in one round when Sharpe was still an undefeated prospect, while Quillin took four rounds and Sharpe had lost five in a row at that point.

Bottom line, Giovanni is the more battle-tested fighter and a much tougher test for Andy Lee than Peter Quillin would be. Let’s have Quillin travel to Australia to fight Daniel Geale, or to Russia to fight Dmitriy Pirog or Germany and fight Golvoken and see how he does before he gets a big fight on HBO. Giovanni’s earned his chance.
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Old 01-12-2012, 07:15 PM
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I'll tell you why:

Because Lou DiBella would much rather have Lee in a fight he knows he can win, so he can set up Sergio Martinez next fight against yep, you guessed it - andy lee.

Bob arum isn't the only one that loves in house fighting.

Everyone knows what Giovanni Lorenzo is. He's lost 4 of his last 9 fights. Decent fighter, but Lee would certainly have the edge.

Peter Quillan, he's undefeated, looks very powerful at 160 and he's improved since his injury that kept him sidelined for a bit.

It's too risky to put Lee in the ring with Quillin, much too risky, especially when DiBella wants to make Martinez vs Lee later in the year.

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Old 01-12-2012, 07:22 PM
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Default CompuBox numbers Sturm - Lorenzo

Punches Landed / Thrown


Total Punches Jabs Power Punches
Sturm 198 / 449 129 / 296 69 / 153

Lorenzo 193 / 1070 22 / 519 171 / 551

Lorenzo clearly out punched Sturm in power punches (by over 100) equal in jabs, how does Sturm get the victory? we all know the answer to that question, "The fight was in Germany in his hometown for the WBA.

Lorenzo threw 1070 in the fight to only 449 by Sturm.

Maklin got his shot at Sergio Martinez with the same punch output, The bottom line is Lorenzo comes to fight.
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Old 01-12-2012, 07:26 PM
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Punches Landed / Thrown


Total Punches Jabs Power Punches
Sturm 198 / 449 129 / 296 69 / 153

Lorenzo 193 / 1070 22 / 519 171 / 551

Lorenzo clearly out punched Sturm in power punches (by over 100) equal in jabs, how does Sturm get the victory? we all know the answer to that question, "The fight was in Germany in his hometown for the WBA.

Lorenzo threw 1070 in the fight to only 449 by Sturm.

Maklin got his shot at Sergio Martinez with the same punch output, The bottom line is Lorenzo comes to fight.
compubox doesn't win fights nor is it accurate. No one was crying robbery. Sturm won clearly.
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Old 01-12-2012, 07:28 PM
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i remember when lorenzo lost to old man raul marquez. i don't see an excuse for that fight on the list?
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Quillin is much hype and untested, Thats a fact, Giovanni Lorenzo would be undefeated too if he fought the same figherts Quillin did, so would Lee, Quillin still needs to prove himself, He clearly has a suspect chin. Shown in the Miranda fight, and that can not be improved you ar eborn with a chin. Fight someone my man, and then you have something to talk about, Right now, he has nothing to talk about.
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Quillin would have been KO'd by Raul, Lorenzo beat Marquez, but that fight was in Marquez promoters home court too, Lorenzo is a warrior, never been down or stopped, He is right in front of you and comes to fight, He doesn't cry about th emoney, he doesn't back out of fights, and he doesn't fake injuries, he is a real fighter, he fights
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Quillin would have been KO'd by Raul, Lorenzo beat Marquez, but that fight was in Marquez promoters home court too, Lorenzo is a warrior, never been down or stopped, He is right in front of you and comes to fight, He doesn't cry about th emoney, he doesn't back out of fights, and he doesn't fake injuries, he is a real fighter, he fights
you do realize some people have actually seen these fights so you can't claim robbery on every single one because i saw that fight and he lost.
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I hope not

Im probably gonna go see this fight so i hope its someone good
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Old 01-12-2012, 07:48 PM
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You work for Lorenzo? because he doesn't deserve to be on HBO.
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