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Old 01-13-2012, 07:40 PM
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And the IAEA source has been called into question, one link from Guardian just so it matches yours.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/juli...uclear-weapons
it's quite possible iran's nuclear program is completely legit.

i mean iran does have energy needs.

their natural gas program is behind as far as tapping its potential.

a lot of their oil is for export and needed for hard currency and their oil program isn't as efficient as it should be.



but i am suspicious........
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Well yes it's for two reasons. As you mentioned the brainwasing of Americans into associating anything "Socialist" with evil is one factor that woujld take a couple generations to undo (or a extremely mindfukingly enormously significant event) but the other is because America is multicultural. Even among multicultural societies America is about as hostile and devisive as it gets. That setup doesn't lend itself to socialism unless it were to be implemented Mao or Stalin style with iron force and in that case it wouldn't spawn socialism, it would spawn the Soviet Union.
I think that's impossible to know how society in america will be 50, 100, 200 years from now...you're assuming society stays the same which it obviously wont.
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Old 01-13-2012, 07:42 PM
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Old 01-13-2012, 07:58 PM
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The only way we will get pure Socialism, is through Population reduction by default, as resources start to decline and people start to die out. A Libertarian-Socialism, with voluntarism.

Individuals have evolved from the days where Slavery was accepted and a common, normal thing. At one point it was as normal as Capitalism. Fuk paying wages, we'll gain more Capital by buying a few slaves and have them work for free.

Either individuals will evolve when there is a smaller population or they never will. And we will compete and Capitalize over each other and against each other, until there is nobody left. Goes back to my point of: I can take a 100 people and move to an island, and create Socialist Utopia. Less people, a lot of land, no real Govt. needed. We'll figure out a collectivist voluntary system of caring and sharing and working together to maintain our little 100 people Society. Now try it with a 1000 people, and it gets a little harder. More individuals, more problems, who could have their own interests at hand. So basically, what i'm saying is, if you're lucky enough to be one of the 100 remaining, you may get your way.

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Old 01-13-2012, 08:04 PM
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i'm for population reduction.

let's shoot all the commies and pinkos.

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It's just a matter of time...the US public is being prepared...primed and conditioned for the inevitable so that people will want and expect it to happen (see the video below)...and so that it won't have any negative repercussions on Obama's re-election bid. In fact it will...enhance it greatly. I'm almost wondering who was behind the speedboats pointing an AK57 at a US Coastguard ship and whether it was staged...kinda like bringing a knife to a gunfight. If it wasn't staged then that alone is reason for not wanting Iran to have nuclear capabilities...because it goes to show you how insane they are.

I think the question here is not why it will happen...but when. Better sooner than later. Could you image the world today with an Iraq and/or Syria with what would have become a completed Nuclear reactor? The world is a much better place today without that reality or question. Just get it over with and move on.

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