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Old 12-23-2011, 12:08 AM
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Default Why is Ray Leonard not considered the GOAT?

IMO he should get more recognition at the best ever. Ray was a master in the ring. Please give me a reason why he is not the GOAT
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Old 12-23-2011, 12:14 AM
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Floyd Mayweather is for fighting ATG in 39 year old Mosley and VISCIOUS Victor "young prime hungry that didn't just fight for a paycheck" Ortiz. Plus he cleaned up the sport with OST! No more cheating in boxing. Mayweather revolutionized boxing
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As god tier as Leonard's resume is, if he had've fought and defeated McCallum & Julian Jackson @ 154 or 160 and Pryor @ 147, he probably would've had undoubtedly THE greatest resume in boxing history.

Or even just 2 out of the 3 wins over the gentlemen listed above and his resume would've been unfuckwittable.
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Old 12-23-2011, 12:18 AM
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Sugar Ray Robinson

Willie Pep

Joe Louis

Ali

Benny Leonard

Sam Langford

And so on...

He's in the top 20 maybe 15 or so.

Definitely not #1
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Old 12-23-2011, 12:20 AM
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Sugar Ray Robinson

Willie Pep

Joe Louis

Ali

Benny Leonard

Sam Langford

And so on...

He's in the top 20 maybe 15 or so.

Definitely not #1
That is a nice list but Ray Leonards talents in the ring are unseen nowadays. Still think Ray smokes Mayweather and Pacquiao respectively.
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Old 12-23-2011, 12:23 AM
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As god tier as Leonard's resume is, if he had've fought and defeated McCallum & Julian Jackson @ 154 or 160 and Pryor @ 147, he probably would've had undoubtedly THE greatest resume in boxing history.

Or even just 2 out of the 3 wins over the gentlemen listed above and his resume would've been unfuckwittable.


Ray Leonard finished his career off in 89-91 (not counting his comeback in the later 90's) and at that time Gerald McClellan was still a prospect......barley

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Old 12-23-2011, 12:23 AM
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Sugar Ray Robinson

Willie Pep

Joe Louis

Ali

Benny Leonard

Sam Langford

And so on...

He's in the top 20 maybe 15 or so.

Definitely not #1
Continue on with so on. That's about where the list ends of fighters ahead of Ray. Henry Armstrong also but Ray is in the top 10 of all time.
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Old 12-23-2011, 12:23 AM
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That is a nice list but Ray Leonards talents in the ring are unseen nowadays. Still think Ray smokes Mayweather and Pacquiao respectively.
Probably.

That just makes him better then any fighter today.

But not GOAT.
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Old 12-23-2011, 12:24 AM
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That is a nice list but Ray Leonards talents in the ring are unseen nowadays. Still think Ray smokes Mayweather and Pacquiao respectively.
He would but Mayweather is only a top 40 or so fighter. Pac might end up in the top 20 but it's because his rise through the ranks. Not his dominance at 147lbs.
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Old 12-23-2011, 12:25 AM
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Probably.

That just makes him better then any fighter today.

But not GOAT.
True...but anytime I see him fight it just amazes me his skill and speed. **** he was fast
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