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Old 12-22-2011, 09:53 AM
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Ok, he's an atg, we all agree there. Is he the best fighter of 2011? Absolutely not. Not by beating a shot Sugar Shane & arguably losing to Marquez, no way. Martinez lost his spot sporting 2 ko's. Manny holds his struggling against guys he's supposed to stop.
As I said Morales and Marquez are HOF fighters. Pacquiao losing to them is not like Pacquiao lost big time to a bum fighter and that makes him a bum fighter as well as what most of Pac haters trying to portrait here.

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Old 12-22-2011, 09:55 AM
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I wouldn't say pac is a media hype creation but I think JMM and Floyd are a bit better.
Hopefully the Floyd thing will be settled this year before both men can slip from being on top of their game.
Also some of his fans say he would KO Hearns, SRL, SRR, Armstrong, etc lol.
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Old 12-22-2011, 09:58 AM
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I wouldn't say pac is a media hype creation but I think JMM and Floyd are a bit better.
Hopefully the Floyd thing will be settled this year before both men can slip from being on top of their game.
NO, Floyd and JMM is no better than Pacquiao. Floyd beating Pacquiao doesn't mean Floyd will inherit Pacquiao's 8 divisions titles and 4 lineal titles who fought in pro boxing from 106 up to 150. You have to earn it by yourself in a hard way. Floyd can beat Pacquiao but Pacquiao will still consider greater than him unless he surpass Pacquiao accomplishment.

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Old 12-22-2011, 10:01 AM
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Sheesh...........nothing compared to Floyd. By the age of 24 he was already beating women.
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:05 AM
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Pac is a great fight, has a HOF ATG resume, and is one of the best we have seen. He is only overrated in the sense that some of you retards think he is top 5 or 10 ATG which he simply is not.
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:07 AM
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NO. Floyd beating Pacquiao doesn't mean Floyd inherited Pacquiao's 8 divisions titles and 4 lineal titles who fought in pro boxing from 106 up to 154. You have to earn it by yourself. Floyd can beat Pacquiao but Pacquiao will still consider greater than him unless he surpass Pacquiao accomplishment.
Paper titles for a paper champ like Manny mean nothing. When Mayweather gives this hype job a serious boxing lesson, you'll realize why Mayweather surpasses and leaves Manny behind. A lot of places have already placed Mayweather at pound for pound #1 and he hasn't even whooped Manny yet. It simply goes to show you that people have caught on.

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Old 12-22-2011, 10:09 AM
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Paper titles for a paper champ like Manny mean nothing. When Mayweather gives his hype job a serious boxing lesson, you'll realize why Mayweather surpasses and leaves Manny behind. A lot of places have already placed Mayweather at pound for pound #1 and he hasn't even whooped Manny yet. It simply goes to show you that people have caught on.
Oh! Another coulda, woulda, shoulda in fantasy fight from you. How about some reality and facts here. Will you tell us what Floyd did in 112, 122, 126, 130, 135, 140, 147, 154? I'll be waiting.

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Old 12-22-2011, 10:13 AM
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so mayweather better than pacquiao makes pacquiao a hypejob? gtfo here. both are great fighters but pacquiao has better resume. if only mayweather got balls and fought cotto and margarito..
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:34 AM
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Pac is a great fight, has a HOF ATG resume, and is one of the best we have seen. He is only overrated in the sense that some of you retards think he is top 5 or 10 ATG which he simply is not.
Some people think Pac is no1, let alone no5. Some think SRR is no1, and some people dont think that. Depends on who is doing the rating. But everyone is overated in some peoples opinions.
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:56 AM
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Welterweight was a ghost town when Manny moved in, or at least it looked that way since he steamed rolled through all the big names in the division.

His goal at WW is to get a big payday against Floyd, but unbeknownst to everyone, he was able to taste the same fame and fortune that only Floyd was privileged to and hence delaying the inevitable.

Exactly, it was a ghost town. beating the big names, that were already old, weightdrained, or ran through already doesn't make him the beast that you or any other of his fans claim. Not when fighters like Ward are pounding out dominating wins in weight classes as stacked at 168 over prime elite fighters. Good clarification & even borderline self ownage, thanks alot.


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As I said Morales and Marquez are HOF fighters. Pacquiao losing to them is not like Pacquiao lost big time to a bum fighter and that makes him a bum fighter as well as what most of Pac haters trying to portrait here.
Pacman is an atg, we do not disagree there. But he is overrated by the majority of his fans. He's not top 10, boxers cause him a world of trouble & his welterweight run is nothing short of a joke. But that does not include the great things he has done at 140 & below. Because he has been stellar below 147.
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