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Old 12-22-2011, 07:41 AM
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Pacquaio started pro boxing at the age of 16, he put metal objects on his pocket just to make weight as he was too light to fight at 106, you should also know he was fighting full grown adult boxers. By the age of 24 Pacquaio was already 3 divisons champ, a 2 lineal champ and a champ at the young age of 19. He beat the WBC Flyweight champion, lineal champ Sasakul at the age of 19, beat the 122 IBF champ rising star Hand of Stone Lebwaba and destroyed The Ring Magazine champ, 126 lineal champ Baby Face Assasin Barrera. Can't you see the greatness in him even such a young age or he just a media created hype job and overrated as what some Pac haters here trying to fool us? By the age of 30, he was already a 7 divisions champ and 4 lineal champ who fought between 106-147. So those people who thought Pac is overrated and media created hype job, will you tell us which current fighter who you thought is not overrated and resume wise are more succesful than Pacquaio as I stated above.
Why do people still mention him as a good win? The guy was never any good, ever. The one single name on his resume was an old shot Bungu. Other than that he had already been knocked out, and the other dude did it easier than Pac. Stop mentioning this guy as some kind of 'name' for Pac.

It's like mentioning Julio Gervacio as a great name on Marquez's resume. The guy was a champion and was more proven than Ledwaba, but no one talks about him....because he's **** just like Ledwaba was.

"Rising star".....only in Pacland was he ever a rising star.
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Old 12-22-2011, 08:39 AM
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Pacquaio started pro boxing at the age of 16, he put metal objects on his pocket just to make weight as he was too light to fight at 106, you should also know he was fighting full grown adult boxers. By the age of 24 Pacquaio was already 3 divisons champ, a 2 lineal champ and a champ at the young age of 19. He beat the WBC Flyweight champion, lineal champ Sasakul at the age of 19, beat the 122 IBF champ rising star Hand of Stone Lebwaba and destroyed The Ring Magazine champ, 126 lineal champ Baby Face Assasin Barrera. Can't you see the greatness in him even such a young age or he just a media created hype job and overrated as what some Pac haters here trying to fool us? By the age of 30, he was already a 7 divisions champ and 4 lineal champ who fought between 106-147. So those people who thought Pac is overrated and media created hype job, will you tell us which current fighter who you thought is not overrated and resume wise are more succesful than Pacquaio as I stated above.
When one of the best boxers on earth give Pac a close fight like JMM did, which Pac was favourite in then Pac becomes overated?

He has achieved more than anyone and that is why greatness is placed on him. When you have achieved more than any other boxer, there doesnt need to be limit to how great you can claim Pac to be.
If you say he is the GOAT, you arent overating him, because he did things no one has done. Saying he is the GOAT dont neccesarily mean he is, so people should stop getting their nickers in a twist
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Old 12-22-2011, 09:56 AM
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Why do people still mention him as a good win? The guy was never any good, ever. The one single name on his resume was an old shot Bungu. Other than that he had already been knocked out, and the other dude did it easier than Pac. Stop mentioning this guy as some kind of 'name' for Pac.

It's like mentioning Julio Gervacio as a great name on Marquez's resume. The guy was a champion and was more proven than Ledwaba, but no one talks about him....because he's **** just like Ledwaba was.

"Rising star".....only in Pacland was he ever a rising star.
Hater! Ledwaba was one of the man to beat at 122 that time. After his first loss, Ledwaba won his next 24 fights and defended his belt 5 times before the Pacquiao fight! Often forgotten, Pacquiao was brought in as a late-substitute to feed the burgeoning stardom of South Africa’s highly touted Ledwaba, then 33-1-1. Fruck you! You think having a major belt in boxing is like you can pick it easily in a road side and anybody could beat them easily like what Pac did to him.

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Old 12-22-2011, 10:24 AM
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Pacman is a superb fighter & below 147, his resume is atg material. However his welterweight run & jrmiddleweight run is unbecoming of his greatness.
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:36 AM
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Pacman is a superb fighter & below 147, his resume is atg material. However his welterweight run & jrmiddleweight run is unbecoming of his greatness.
Did you ever heard about icing of the cake but far from a tune up fight like all the well known fighters they normally do?

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Old 12-22-2011, 10:41 AM
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Did you ever heard about icing of the cake but far from a tune up fight like all the well known fighters they normally do?
I don't even understand your reply bro.
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:45 AM
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I don't even understand your reply bro.
What I meant is even if you don't include his welterweight accomplishment and above, he was pretty set already in the stone.
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:48 AM
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What I meant is even if you don't include his welterweight accomplishment and above, he was pretty set already in the stone.
Ok, he's an atg, we all agree there. Is he the best fighter of 2011? Absolutely not. Not by beating a shot Sugar Shane & arguably losing to Marquez, no way. Martinez lost his spot sporting 2 ko's. Manny holds his struggling against guys he's supposed to stop.
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:52 AM
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When he was in the lower weights, he was doing his thing.

Recently the media has been overhyping him. The current Pacquiao is definitely a media created hype job. The wins are inflated, his status is inflated because of these pretty average wins. Fighting the the guys who use to be the best, when they are not the best anymore. Nothing great about a fighter doing that. That gets me mad actually. I was a big Martinez hater not too long ago, a really big one, like Mushadeen level..then Martinez shut me up after the Pavlik win and Williams KO, and taking the Dzinzuruk fight that HBO forced him to take.


Pacquiao can shut me up as well, by beating some live young fighters consistently...like Bradley, Ortiz-Berto winner, and fighting the guys people want him to fight when they are good, not when they are coming off bad performances or losses.
Martinez is also overrated imo, no idea why ppl rate him so highly.
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:53 AM
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Pacman is a superb fighter & below 147, his resume is atg material. However his welterweight run & jrmiddleweight run is unbecoming of his greatness.
Welterweight was a ghost town when Manny moved in, or at least it looked that way since he steamed rolled through all the big names in the division.

His goal at WW is to get a big payday against Floyd, but unbeknownst to everyone, he was able to taste the same fame and fortune that only Floyd was privileged to and hence delaying the inevitable.
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