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Old 12-12-2011, 02:30 AM
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They're costing taxpayers 41K per year, they should chip in too
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Old 12-12-2011, 02:48 AM
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In Wisconsin you already have to pay if you go to jail...**** is like $30-40 a day...if you're a homeless they only charge you like $13 a day (still have no idea how they would collect on that though)...
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:35 AM
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In Wisconsin you already have to pay if you go to jail...**** is like $30-40 a day...if you're a homeless they only charge you like $13 a day (still have no idea how they would collect on that though)...

they put a lien on your shyt. . so if you ever do get any kind of taxable income, or social security, inheritance, ANYTHING the govt. can "view", they automatically deduct it. . kind of like child support. . . basically only way to avoid paying it is never own anything (they will repo car, house, etc.) and get paid under the table. . .

some people think they can duck it. . and they might even avoid it for decades, and decades. . but when tehy are old enough to draw social security, they start getting like 20 dollar checks instead of 200. . .

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Old 12-12-2011, 04:41 AM
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:41 AM
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they put a lien on your shyt. . so if you ever do get any kind of taxable income, or social security, inheritance, ANYTHING the govt. can "view", they automatically deduct it. . kind of like child support. . . basically only way to avoid paying it is never own anything (they will repo car, house, etc.) and get paid under the table. . .

some people think they can duck it. . and they might even avoid it for decades, and decades. . but when tehy are old enough to draw social security, they start getting like 20 dollar checks instead of 200. . .
There's a statute of limitations on debt.
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:59 AM
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There's a statute of limitations on debt.
i don't think so. . not for the govt. anyway. . maybe private creditors. .

could be wrong, though. . .

and even if a private creditor put a lien on you, that lien would be in effect FOREVER. . HOWEVER< if he DID NOT get a lien on you within a certain amount of time, and THEN tried to get one after so long, then yes, the SOL would prohibit him from recovering.
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The article is about California, in which the statute of limitations for debt is between two and four years.

http://www.consumerfraudreporting.or...lectionsol.php

This is a bad idea by the way. The result of a prison sentence can shatter someone financially. In the first instance the prisoner will almost certainly lose their job. This will probably mean them losing all of their assets such as their house, their car etc. The criminal record they will have makes it very difficult for them to find a new job. They're already financially pooched, just from being in prison.

One of the goals of imprisonment has to be rehabilitation; taking somebody who has committed crimes and turning them into a productive member of society. Financially crippling them is not the way to do this.

Of course the US system is considerably more punitive than that of most other progressive countries, so the idea of completely ruining someone financially and rehabilitation be damned is probably quite appealing to Americans. I just don't think it will help, it'll cause more problems than it will solve.

Look at the Wisconsin numbers: $40 a day. You get a 30 day stretch, that's $1200. You get out of jail with no house, no car, no job and no money and a bill for $1200. What are you going to do?
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Old 12-12-2011, 05:22 AM
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The article is about California, in which the statute of limitations for debt is between two and four years.

http://www.consumerfraudreporting.or...lectionsol.php

This is a bad idea by the way. The result of a prison sentence can shatter someone financially. In the first instance the prisoner will almost certainly lose their job. This will probably mean them losing all of their assets such as their house, their car etc. The criminal record they will have makes it very difficult for them to find a new job. They're already financially pooched, just from being in prison.

One of the goals of imprisonment has to be rehabilitation; taking somebody who has committed crimes and turning them into a productive member of society. Financially crippling them is not the way to do this.

Of course the US system is considerably more punitive than that of most other progressive countries, so the idea of completely ruining someone financially and rehabilitation be damned is probably quite appealing to Americans. I just don't think it will help, it'll cause more problems than it will solve.

Look at the Wisconsin numbers: $40 a day. You get a 30 day stretch, that's $1200. You get out of jail with no house, no car, no job and no money and a bill for $1200. What are you going to do?


that just means that the debtor must INITIATE the lawsuit before that period of time. . . it doesn't mean that it will magically "go away" if a suit is brought against you. . . if they bring a lawsuit against you within that time period, and you don't show up to court, or have anything to repo, a lien will be placed against your name and it will remain in effect until you die. . . at which time it will then be removed form anything you own, before being inherited by your issue (if you don't have a will).

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