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#21
Old 12-13-2011, 04:11 PM
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Toney in great shape? Toney by close decision. Hopkins is best at exploiting a fighter's weaknesses, but Toney at his best didnt have many glaring ones. Exellent infighting, defense, handspeed, combination punching...I see Hopkins having success with sneaky tactics, but it wont be enough.
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Old 12-13-2011, 04:18 PM
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Prime James toney. Hopkins in his prime was more straight ahead brawler. Toney would have beat him almost as bad as he beat barkley. Maybe that's why Hopkins never moved up to 168 or 175 until the coast was clear.
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Old 12-14-2011, 01:30 AM
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I'd even go as far as saying Toney sparks Hopkins late if this were at 160-168... Maybe round 10, Toney at that weight was too fast, slick and powerful. Dude was a beast offensively and defensively.
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Old 03-18-2012, 05:28 PM
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bump! been thinking about this fight a lot myself.

Haven't came to a conclusion so put me down as 50/50
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Old 03-18-2012, 05:29 PM
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By prime, I assume we mean James Toney on his A game.

Bernard is simply no match for that James Toney
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Old 03-18-2012, 05:35 PM
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By prime, I assume we mean James Toney on his A game.

Bernard is simply no match for that James Toney
I'd lean on Toney aswell.

Ideally at 168. Shame Hopkins never ventured there.
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Old 03-18-2012, 05:38 PM
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Based on pure ability, I like Toney 9/10.

Bernard would have to make it ugly, and we all know he does that very well.
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Old 03-18-2012, 05:43 PM
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Toney due to styles, but I aint counting out Hopkins. Common opponent, RJJ, hopkins won 4 rounds, Toney got embarrassed. And hopkins in the 90s didnt have the output problems he did in his 40s
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Old 03-18-2012, 05:48 PM
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Based on pure ability, I like Toney 9/10.

Bernard would have to make it ugly, and we all know he does that very well.
^^^ This.
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Old 03-18-2012, 05:57 PM
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i think toney's inside game is stronger. hands down, toney was the more talented boxer.

it would be close, but i think toney would pull it off.
Toney's inside game is his biggest strength but his weakness as well as he could be a bit one dimensional on his approach, Hopkins on the other hand has bag full of tricks with different approaches, Ill have to go with the more versatile fighter, B-Hop all day.
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