Bookmark Website  | Free Registration  | The Team
Boxing Champions |  Boxing Schedule |  Boxing Video  |  Boxing History   |  Pound For Pound  | Lounge  | The Wire |  Audio  | Arcade

Navigation
Go Back   Boxing Forum > Boxing Forums > Non Stop Boxing
Reply
Thread Navigation

#1
Old 12-13-2011, 03:37 AM
BIGPOPPAPUMP
Big Bad Booty Daddy
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: New York
Posts: 20,602
Rep Power: 200000 BIGPOPPAPUMP has a reputation beyond reputeBIGPOPPAPUMP has a reputation beyond reputeBIGPOPPAPUMP has a reputation beyond reputeBIGPOPPAPUMP has a reputation beyond reputeBIGPOPPAPUMP has a reputation beyond reputeBIGPOPPAPUMP has a reputation beyond reputeBIGPOPPAPUMP has a reputation beyond reputeBIGPOPPAPUMP has a reputation beyond reputeBIGPOPPAPUMP has a reputation beyond reputeBIGPOPPAPUMP has a reputation beyond reputeBIGPOPPAPUMP has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 2,502,089,387,804.50
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 2,502,089,387,804.50
16k posts. cheers - MELLY-MEL... To our dad. Thanks for looking after us! - S a m u r a i Unban ЯiZO - Hugh Janus Unban ЯiZO - Hugh Janus Cheers, to the servers BPP! - mangler 
unban kev183 - Kevin Jesus Thanks for all u du Pops! - jazluvr For the Sam Tribute thread! Thanks Pops! - jazluvr Our Boxingscene father, who art in heaven.... - Disposable Arts A Medal For Boxing Scenes Father...... ;-) nyargles! - BritishBoxing92 
Apple for Pump - Poor Lad Enjoy your Parallelogram - Spray_resistant Merry Christmas - Flab ...and a Happy New Year! - Flab .........no homo - MANIAC310 
for the amazing job you do reporting the boxing news! - jose830 happy holidays Popa! - jazluvr To wipe yourself down with after Reeno's sprayed his seed up you - !! Anorak Kudos to responding to the trolling!  Seeing your pic of Mayweather on the throne has become a daily routine for me. - Trudoe saw your name on my 'recent visitor list'...I'm flattered :flirt: - -jose- 
Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Butterball Anti-Tobacco - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - S a m u r a i Cesarean Sections - Headaches - Hospice Care - Multiple Myeloma - S a m u r a i Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - S a m u r a i Childhood Cancer - S a m u r a i 
Lou Gehrig's Disease (ALS) - -Ash- Head and Neck Cancer - -Ash- Breast Cancer - Birth Parents - -Ash- Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - bearman3000 Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - jazluvr 
World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - jazluvr Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - jazluvr Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Grand Champ Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - jazluvr Anti-Tobacco - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - jazluvr 
Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - bigpauly Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - Trudoe 
Post Comments Thread For: Upon Further Review: Rotten D.C. Verdict Still Stinks

By Lyle Fitzsimmons - It’s getting close to 72 hours… and I still can’t decide how I feel.

Suffice to say, though, that the whole of Saturday’s show from Washington, D.C. has me conflicted.

First off, regardless of who actually won the fight-of-the-year-quality main event (Lamont Peterson) – and/or who actually deserved to (Amir Khan) – my forecast of a final showcase performance by Khan on the way to a super cash-out a division north was, shall we say, a bit off.

Had Michael Buffer spat "and still" rather than "and new" after what seemed an inordinate mathematical delay at the Walter E. Washington Convention Center, the handsome Brit with Pakistani tribal roots would still have had some serious image-reclamation work to do.

By any measure, his performance was disappointing.

And needless to say, even winning a chaotic scrap at 140 with a guy who’d gone 0-1-1 in his two biggest fights wouldn’t have been the most convincing evidence that Khan – even at 27-1 – was rightful heir to the P4P thrones now held by the Mayweathers and Pacquiaos at 147.

It was barely worthy, in fact, of court jesters Berto, Ortiz and Jones.

While he looked intermittently brilliant letting his hands go and befuddling Peterson with movement, there were far too many occasions when Khan was drawn into firefights and apparently flummoxed by his inability to render a less-skilled foe unconscious, or at least unwilling.
[Click Here To Read More]
Reply With Quote
BIGPOPPAPUMP is offline
Advertisements
>>>TO REMOVE THESE ADS, PLEASE REGISTER HERE FOR FREE<<<
#2
Old 12-13-2011, 03:41 AM
Hougigo
Streets Ahead
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 31,188
Rep Power: 108 Hougigo has a reputation beyond reputeHougigo has a reputation beyond reputeHougigo has a reputation beyond reputeHougigo has a reputation beyond reputeHougigo has a reputation beyond reputeHougigo has a reputation beyond reputeHougigo has a reputation beyond reputeHougigo has a reputation beyond reputeHougigo has a reputation beyond reputeHougigo has a reputation beyond reputeHougigo has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 10,061,846,742.06
Bank: 23,967,712,634,796.62
Total Points: 23,977,774,481,538.68
Bradley Tribe all day... - Rome-By-Ko For the real man of steel, Timothy Bradley. -Bradley Tribe - SnakeVen0m Bradley Tribe - mathed Bradley Tribe - mathed STORMTROOPERS - DonMega 
Great poster, always look forward to your posts - techliam No Message - MDPopescu Great sig pic - Boxing Goat WAR Bradley! - LoadedWraps STORMTROOPERS!!! - DonMega 
Bradley Tribe!!!!! - mathed Easter is approaching so here's an Easter Egg for being a HOF poster - jas To a valiant warrior. - DonMega Mount up#The Tribe - Rome-By-Ko a beer for an atg poster - jas 
To a great poster and fellow Trooper! - LoadedWraps GGG. - Scott.Weiland Great poster :love: - Beercules Have a cookie, great poster. - Aztekkas Tribe!!!!!!! - mathed 
Hodgkin's Disease - Testicular Cancer - jas Cultural Diversity - Hunger - Leukemia - Lupus - Melanoma - Racial Tolerance - Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy Syndrome - Self Injury - BostonGuy Autism - jas 
Default

Rightful heir to the P4P throne?
Befuddling Peterson with movement?
Reply With Quote
Hougigo is online now
#3
Old 12-13-2011, 03:43 AM
kimmiblob
Interim Champion
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 854
Rep Power: 9 kimmiblob has a reputation beyond reputekimmiblob has a reputation beyond reputekimmiblob has a reputation beyond reputekimmiblob has a reputation beyond reputekimmiblob has a reputation beyond reputekimmiblob has a reputation beyond reputekimmiblob has a reputation beyond reputekimmiblob has a reputation beyond reputekimmiblob has a reputation beyond reputekimmiblob has a reputation beyond reputekimmiblob has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 5,074,680.62
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 5,074,680.62
Green! - dancovboxer good poster - chiguy91 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
By Lyle Fitzsimmons - It’s getting close to 72 hours… and I still can’t decide how I feel.

Suffice to say, though, that the whole of Saturday’s show from Washington, D.C. has me conflicted.

First off, regardless of who actually won the fight-of-the-year-quality main event (Lamont Peterson) – and/or who actually deserved to (Amir Khan) – my forecast of a final showcase performance by Khan on the way to a super cash-out a division north was, shall we say, a bit off.

Had Michael Buffer spat "and still" rather than "and new" after what seemed an inordinate mathematical delay at the Walter E. Washington Convention Center, the handsome Brit with Pakistani tribal roots would still have had some serious image-reclamation work to do.

By any measure, his performance was disappointing.

And needless to say, even winning a chaotic scrap at 140 with a guy who’d gone 0-1-1 in his two biggest fights wouldn’t have been the most convincing evidence that Khan – even at 27-1 – was rightful heir to the P4P thrones now held by the Mayweathers and Pacquiaos at 147.

It was barely worthy, in fact, of court jesters Berto, Ortiz and Jones.

While he looked intermittently brilliant letting his hands go and befuddling Peterson with movement, there were far too many occasions when Khan was drawn into firefights and apparently flummoxed by his inability to render a less-skilled foe unconscious, or at least unwilling.
[Click Here To Read More]
What more can expect darma darma
Reply With Quote
kimmiblob is offline
#4
Old 12-13-2011, 04:21 AM
Rip Chudd
1 John 2:22
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Tucson, Arizona
Posts: 7,795
Rep Power: 31 Rip Chudd has a reputation beyond reputeRip Chudd has a reputation beyond reputeRip Chudd has a reputation beyond reputeRip Chudd has a reputation beyond reputeRip Chudd has a reputation beyond reputeRip Chudd has a reputation beyond reputeRip Chudd has a reputation beyond reputeRip Chudd has a reputation beyond reputeRip Chudd has a reputation beyond reputeRip Chudd has a reputation beyond reputeRip Chudd has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 104,380.72
Bank: 1,179,873,461,514,741,504.00
Total Points: 1,179,873,461,514,845,952.00
Happy Holidays Chip! - Lorily Yeah that's right - Rip Chudd Lollllllllllllllll drink it down with some pepsi - -Kev- e-billionaire - MANIAC310 for being richer than me for a couple hours - MANIAC310 
Cheers! - iBreakbeat Just have a beer bro - led Cookie! - MANIAC310 one of my favorite Christians in the lounge :D - MANIAC310 Splendid use of your Javelin out there!!! - Jedi Vader 
twenty! - MANIAC310 Thnx again homie.. - the mesiah Thanks for the points - blacraven have a Happy and safe New Years bro! - jose830 thanks bro! :beerchug: - jose830 
thanks for donating to the Superbowl Jackpot points will be returned if nobody wins :beerchug: - jose830 :luvbed: - jose830 
Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Black Ranger Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - MANIAC310 Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Robin Hood World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - Sir TomJones World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - Sir TomJones 
Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - codey 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hougigo View Post
Rightful heir to the P4P throne?
Befuddling Peterson with movement?
LOL, I know right. When are fools gonna stop crying and blame Khan for excessive pushing. British announcers did it, seems the rest of the world needs to play catch up. I had Khan winning 113-112, but i'm not mad with the decision. Live and learn Khan.
Reply With Quote
Rip Chudd is offline
#5
Old 12-13-2011, 04:27 AM
Furn
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Straylya
Posts: 1,714
Rep Power: 14 Furn has a reputation beyond reputeFurn has a reputation beyond reputeFurn has a reputation beyond reputeFurn has a reputation beyond reputeFurn has a reputation beyond reputeFurn has a reputation beyond reputeFurn has a reputation beyond reputeFurn has a reputation beyond reputeFurn has a reputation beyond reputeFurn has a reputation beyond reputeFurn has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 81,004.37
Bank: 10,580,420,959,637.56
Total Points: 10,580,421,040,641.93
Khan's Army - Box-Office Funny stuff - hectari 
Default

Great article, a great fight forever tarnished by a shocking ref
Reply With Quote
Furn is offline
#6
Old 12-13-2011, 04:37 AM
Rapid Counter
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: London, England
Posts: 2,758
Rep Power: 14 Rapid Counter has a reputation beyond reputeRapid Counter has a reputation beyond reputeRapid Counter has a reputation beyond reputeRapid Counter has a reputation beyond reputeRapid Counter has a reputation beyond reputeRapid Counter has a reputation beyond reputeRapid Counter has a reputation beyond reputeRapid Counter has a reputation beyond reputeRapid Counter has a reputation beyond reputeRapid Counter has a reputation beyond reputeRapid Counter has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 18,556.81
Bank: 278,667,522,535,020.91
Total Points: 278,667,522,553,577.72
Cool poster (GL on our bet) - eddie_monster Happy Easter babe :) :kiss: - Bossy Thanks for the help bro! - Camp Beast 1k - rorymac you made my day with that sig....lmao - Alx. 
you made my day with that sig....lmao - Alx. your sig...Lmao!...beer on me... - jose830 Thanks! - FeFist nice albums! i will be paying random visits :D - jose830 LOL @ your sig, heres a cookie from someones picnic basket i looted - Yogi Bear 
Long time man, im not around so much anymore, but here is a beer my brethren - chav Your the man bro - torosboxing75 you got a good sense of humor that's what's up! - -jose- 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hougigo View Post
Rightful heir to the P4P throne?
Befuddling Peterson with movement?
Not to mention "though Cooper’s every bit as indictable for not simply applying in-fight context to supplement the skull-first, bore-in style that Peterson was given a pass on employing for 36 minutes."

What the hell was this writer watching? Peterson by no means fought a dirty fight. How many clashes of heads were there? I can't even remember one. As far as I'm concerned the ref did a stand up job. People are just butt hurt because he took a point in the last round. In my opinion he should have took the 2nd point a hell of a lot sooner. Khan had plenty of warnings.

The writer didn't mention Khan pushing off with the elbows, the constant leaning down on Peterson's neck and let us not forget those headlocks. All these kind of tactics spoil fights, I wish more refs would deduct points for such antics.

Last edited by Rapid Counter; 12-13-2011 at 04:45 AM.
Reply With Quote
Rapid Counter is online now
#7
Old 12-13-2011, 04:42 AM
DeadLikeMe
................
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 7,829
Rep Power: 58 DeadLikeMe has a reputation beyond reputeDeadLikeMe has a reputation beyond reputeDeadLikeMe has a reputation beyond reputeDeadLikeMe has a reputation beyond reputeDeadLikeMe has a reputation beyond reputeDeadLikeMe has a reputation beyond reputeDeadLikeMe has a reputation beyond reputeDeadLikeMe has a reputation beyond reputeDeadLikeMe has a reputation beyond reputeDeadLikeMe has a reputation beyond reputeDeadLikeMe has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 185,007,493,460.23
Bank: 229,460,127,825,656.91
Total Points: 229,645,135,319,117.12
Merry Christmas - Flab ...and a Happy New Year! - Flab owning pactards - I'm so sorry No Message - MARKBNLV No Message - MARKBNLV 
No Message - MARKBNLV Thanks for joining the discussion in my thread about GF's and boxing, its nice to hear everyones experiences with being a fan of the sport!!! - Atreyu Khalil No Message - WESS Thanks for the green - damit305 :rofl: :rofl: Your post on triggs thread - jose830 
No Message - WESS have a cold one on me - sugarsmosley 
Default

"Befuddling Peterson with movement"

Reply With Quote
DeadLikeMe is offline
#8
Old 12-13-2011, 04:42 AM
jvsnypes
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Easton,MD
Age: 42
Posts: 1,262
Blog Entries: 1
Rep Power: 10 jvsnypes has a reputation beyond reputejvsnypes has a reputation beyond reputejvsnypes has a reputation beyond reputejvsnypes has a reputation beyond reputejvsnypes has a reputation beyond reputejvsnypes has a reputation beyond reputejvsnypes has a reputation beyond reputejvsnypes has a reputation beyond reputejvsnypes has a reputation beyond reputejvsnypes has a reputation beyond reputejvsnypes has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 10,000,034,168.41
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 10,000,034,168.41
Default

I think people are outraged because the points were taken from a fighter the status of Khan. But truth be told, he was fouling the whole fight. Not only was he pushing off with the forearm, he was also holding down the back of Peterson's head. If you listen to the ref throughout the fight, he was giving Khan warnings the whole time.How many times do you have to tell a fighter not to do something before he decides to listen??? The points were rightfully taken away. It just seemed strange because it determined the outcome of a world championship fight.

But here's the problem. Khan is a young exciting fighter, but he has a lot of amateur ways when he fights. He was running throwing flurries hoping to outpoint Peterson as if it was an amateur box off. Khan's only defense is his legs, so to avoid the heavy shots, he runs, not dance on his toes, but literally runs. Second, he can't fight on the inside and that's why he pushes off and holds fighters' heads down. Now here's a logical question. If it were 2 amateur fighters that nonone had heard of, would the ref deduct points for the same foul Khan was committing? YES!!! Not only would he have deducted points, but its a possibility that he would have disqualified him. Go back and watch how Khan Ko'd Judah. He was holding his head down. If Freddie Roach was this great trainer like everyone declares him to be, shouldn't he have corrected these flaws by now?

The fight was very close. It could have been a draw, but only 1 person showed up and fought like a world class fighter and that was Lamont Peterson. That's why he is the new champion. Amir showed a great chin and great heart, but he's been exposed already. He can't handle sustained pressure and body attack from a skilled fighter. If he doesn't learn to fight on the inside, the rematch will be the same.
Reply With Quote
jvsnypes is offline
#9
Old 12-13-2011, 04:56 AM
Main Source
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Denmark
Posts: 1,192
Rep Power: 7 Main Source has a reputation beyond reputeMain Source has a reputation beyond reputeMain Source has a reputation beyond reputeMain Source has a reputation beyond reputeMain Source has a reputation beyond reputeMain Source has a reputation beyond reputeMain Source has a reputation beyond reputeMain Source has a reputation beyond reputeMain Source has a reputation beyond reputeMain Source has a reputation beyond reputeMain Source has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 47,223.41
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 47,223.41
Default

The 2nd point deduction was for hitting on the break. That was stupid of Khan.

When Larry asked Lamont about the point deductions Lamont said he didn't mind the pushing. It was the constant down-holding of his head by Khan that bothered him.

So, he often pushed, held Lamont's head down and hit once on the break.

Khan asked for it.
Reply With Quote
Main Source is offline
#10
Old 12-13-2011, 05:41 AM
Virgil Caine
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 13,186
Rep Power: 86 Virgil Caine has a reputation beyond reputeVirgil Caine has a reputation beyond reputeVirgil Caine has a reputation beyond reputeVirgil Caine has a reputation beyond reputeVirgil Caine has a reputation beyond reputeVirgil Caine has a reputation beyond reputeVirgil Caine has a reputation beyond reputeVirgil Caine has a reputation beyond reputeVirgil Caine has a reputation beyond reputeVirgil Caine has a reputation beyond reputeVirgil Caine has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 10,556.64
Bank: 243,700,283,123,987.19
Total Points: 243,700,283,134,543.84
A gift from The Last Emperor LOL! - jakkups Happy birthday homey - mangler Cocktail hour - mangler Sip this wine - mangler more drank - MANGLER 
Thanks for the stream dude. - Naps Happy Birthday! I hope you have a wonderful day - Bossy one of boxingscene's best posters - Freedom. Happy Holidays Nodogoshi - !! AI-Holmes!! Happy holidays bro! - led* 
10 years... impressive :beerchug: - jose830 Congrats on 10 years. - deanrw 
Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - DiLLiNGER 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Main Source View Post
The 2nd point deduction was for hitting on the break. That was stupid of Khan.

When Larry asked Lamont about the point deductions Lamont said he didn't mind the pushing. It was the constant down-holding of his head by Khan that bothered him.

So, he often pushed, held Lamont's head down and hit once on the break.

Khan asked for it.
I seem to remember him hitting on the break the first time too, although it seemed like the ref had already decided to deduct a point for the constant pushing (on the replay it was clear that Khan pushed him once, then pushed him again very shortly after and that was when the ref reacted), and as the ref stepped in to take the point Khan tagged Peterson as the ref was already calling for a break.

In short, I didn't think the deductions were so bad. I also thought the fight was razor close and could have gone either way.
Reply With Quote
Virgil Caine is offline
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Privacy Policy - Submit News - Feedback - Site Map - Advertise with Us

Copyright © 2003-2013 BoxingScene LLC All rights reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:44 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.