So i just been reading this old boxing book - Boxing Forum
Boxing Forum
Navigation
Go Back   Boxing Forum > Boxing Forums > Boxing History

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 11-23-2011, 12:27 AM #1
i_am_a_champ i_am_a_champ is online now
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,891
Quoted: 757 Post(s)
Rep Power: 10
i_am_a_champ has a reputation beyond reputei_am_a_champ has a reputation beyond reputei_am_a_champ has a reputation beyond reputei_am_a_champ has a reputation beyond reputei_am_a_champ has a reputation beyond reputei_am_a_champ has a reputation beyond reputei_am_a_champ has a reputation beyond reputei_am_a_champ has a reputation beyond reputei_am_a_champ has a reputation beyond reputei_am_a_champ has a reputation beyond reputei_am_a_champ has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 1,000,010,110,748.78
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 1,000,010,110,748.78
chalk up yet another win for team sutherland - Mike D 
Default So i just been reading this old boxing book

They had the likes of James Figg, Jack slack, John gully , Thomas Molinuex etc and other bare knuckle puglists fighting bare knuckle for 50 rounds plus and some of them fought into their mid 50's. MID 50'S!


All i can say is:

Good grief!
i_am_a_champ is online now   Reply With Quote
Advertisements
>>>TO REMOVE THESE ADS, PLEASE REGISTER HERE FOR FREE<<<
Old 11-23-2011, 06:00 AM #2
Sugarj Sugarj is offline
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 3,634
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Rep Power: 21
Sugarj has a reputation beyond reputeSugarj has a reputation beyond reputeSugarj has a reputation beyond reputeSugarj has a reputation beyond reputeSugarj has a reputation beyond reputeSugarj has a reputation beyond reputeSugarj has a reputation beyond reputeSugarj has a reputation beyond reputeSugarj has a reputation beyond reputeSugarj has a reputation beyond reputeSugarj has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 10,030,083,925.59
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 10,030,083,925.59
For being a cool poster - -IronMike- beer for a good poster - led Top Poster. - Barnburner Great info in the running thread. - Barnburner for the excellent race time (Its new running shoes!) - The Surgeon 
for invaluable advice in the training forum - jas 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by i_am_a_champ View Post
They had the likes of James Figg, Jack slack, John gully , Thomas Molinuex etc and other bare knuckle puglists fighting bare knuckle for 50 rounds plus and some of them fought into their mid 50's. MID 50'S!


All i can say is:

Good grief!

Sounds like Pierce Egan'd 'Boxiana'. I started there too!!!
Sugarj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2011, 10:30 PM #3
Terry A Terry A is offline
Interim Champion
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Age: 57
Posts: 961
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 12
Terry A has a reputation beyond reputeTerry A has a reputation beyond reputeTerry A has a reputation beyond reputeTerry A has a reputation beyond reputeTerry A has a reputation beyond reputeTerry A has a reputation beyond reputeTerry A has a reputation beyond reputeTerry A has a reputation beyond reputeTerry A has a reputation beyond reputeTerry A has a reputation beyond reputeTerry A has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 1,400,087,057.47
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 1,400,087,057.47
Start you off mate your first gift.. - The Gully Gad To one of boxingscenes best - JAB5239 Thanks for the boxing mags! - hunkysoupbone get well soon - NewYork For Quality posting and for being such a genuine dude! - The Surgeon 
Missed having you around, Have a beer pal - McGoorty A true historian. - Barnburner 
Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - BattlingNelson 
Default

It also sounds like Bob Mees's great book entitled "Bare Fists". A very good read.
Terry A is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2011, 10:34 AM #4
Marchegiano Marchegiano is offline
Interim Champion
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 816
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Rep Power: 8
Marchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 21,026,696.93
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 21,026,696.93
Rocky Marciano ATG fighter - Freedom. Thanks for thanking me! - Terry A 
Default

lol, y'all.

I'm pleased as **** more people are getting into older times. I think the longest engagement was the 110 Bowen-Burke in 1895, but if you wanna get stupid old. The earliest form of champion I've ever been able to get a hint of real proof of actual existence was a fella during the Spartan days who simply allowed his company to whale on him until they were tired. He'd take it all day if you could dish it. Than at the end he'd drop the knock out punch. Apparently it sounded like a Maul hitting a stone. Any who his name was Allus...Ironically with out him allusive wouldn't mean what it means today. Apparently his lasting was him alluding to your getting knocked out. To be fair to my favorite era though, no footwork in Spartan boxing. They just stand there like rock-em sock-em robots. Just thought it was an interesting bit to share.
Marchegiano is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2011, 06:50 AM #5
MonsieurGeorges MonsieurGeorges is offline
The Orchid Man
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: western civilization
Posts: 1,900
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 12
MonsieurGeorges has a reputation beyond reputeMonsieurGeorges has a reputation beyond reputeMonsieurGeorges has a reputation beyond reputeMonsieurGeorges has a reputation beyond reputeMonsieurGeorges has a reputation beyond reputeMonsieurGeorges has a reputation beyond reputeMonsieurGeorges has a reputation beyond reputeMonsieurGeorges has a reputation beyond reputeMonsieurGeorges has a reputation beyond reputeMonsieurGeorges has a reputation beyond reputeMonsieurGeorges has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 10,091,964.85
Bank: 6,247,469.82
Total Points: 16,339,434.67
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marchegiano View Post
lol, y'all.

I'm pleased as **** more people are getting into older times. I think the longest engagement was the 110 Bowen-Burke in 1895, but if you wanna get stupid old. The earliest form of champion I've ever been able to get a hint of real proof of actual existence was a fella during the Spartan days who simply allowed his company to whale on him until they were tired. He'd take it all day if you could dish it. Than at the end he'd drop the knock out punch. Apparently it sounded like a Maul hitting a stone. Any who his name was Allus...Ironically with out him allusive wouldn't mean what it means today. Apparently his lasting was him alluding to your getting knocked out. To be fair to my favorite era though, no footwork in Spartan boxing. They just stand there like rock-em sock-em robots. Just thought it was an interesting bit to share.
i'm not sure about this last part. this word was taken directly from Latin alludere, "to play with", made up of ad "to(ward)" + ludere "to play". Ludere is based on the noun ludus "game". Since this root does not appear in other Indo-European languages, we assume that Latin did not inherit it from Proto-Indo-European but borrowed it from Etruscan, an ancient non-Indo-European language of Italy. English did borrow a slew of words containing the Latin root, however; they include ludicrous, interlude, prelude and, of course, allusion.

im no expert on this perhaps I'm wrong, where did you read this
MonsieurGeorges is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2011, 09:59 AM #6
Marchegiano Marchegiano is offline
Interim Champion
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 816
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Rep Power: 8
Marchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond reputeMarchegiano has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 21,026,696.93
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 21,026,696.93
Rocky Marciano ATG fighter - Freedom. Thanks for thanking me! - Terry A 
Default

Two things.

A) When I said proof of actual existence I should have been more to the point. That's all that can be proven. He was considered greatest by his peers. He was a solder/boxer. Everything else I said come from unproven sources. I meant to make that clear before, but sometimes I word not so good (lol yeah that was on purpose that time) The bit about a Maul you can believe if you like. I understand that dangers of "i've read this" and just accepting that, but when there is very little to talk about "This may be true" is quite interesting. All I mean to say was " Now I know this bloke existed and I know he was well liked, but after those few knowings I can't honestly prove the following" and then the list of stuff i'd heard and either found no reliable references or just never checked too hard. Thats why I started with the easily provable longest fight and moved on to the solely speculatory.

B) The Allus to allude allusive etc. beside having come from a fella at a different forum. As I understood and meant to convey . Was from Latin to English. I really really didn't mean to suggest Proto anything.....you went into an era I get a bit lost in there. I mean inst proto-indo-european basically a cave man? Before the Sumerians right? Second on that front I never cared enough to ask the fella if he meant origin or use. Like a pun style thing?
Marchegiano is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share This With Friends

Tags
book, boxing, reading

User Tag List

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

 

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:09 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.