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Old 11-20-2011, 04:38 PM
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He didn't struggle with Hatton nor Oscar.
Maybe not.. but Pacquiao didn't lose one round against either one of them and stopped both.. same can't be said about Floyd.

Same with Mosley.. cept Pacquiao didn't knock him out, but he did beat him more convincingly.
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Old 11-20-2011, 04:39 PM
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it wouldnt look good for floyd seeing every1 thought floyd would killed the lightweight
Just imagine, he won 120-107 with one knock down, and was criticized for not knocking out a 36 year old, Lightweight champion, "small guy", old etc. If he struggled 7-5, or had a close fight which could have gone either way or the majority of people had it for Marquez. Just imagine...
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Old 11-20-2011, 04:39 PM
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Lol Floyd struggled with Hatton and De La Hoya.


He knocked Hatton out, took his 0, and was wiping him out on the scoredcards 88-82, 89-81, 89-81. Yeah he was really struggling.


He beat De La Hoya 8 rounds to 4 at worst.
it took him what? 9 rounds to take Hatton out?
How many did it take Pac?

How many rounds did Oscar win against Pac?

So he clearly had more of a struggle against them than Pac did..
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Old 11-20-2011, 04:43 PM
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Maybe not.. but Pacquiao didn't lose one round against either one of them and stopped both.. same can't be said about Floyd.

Same with Mosley.. cept Pacquiao didn't knock him out, but he did beat him more convincingly.
Well, yeah, sure he struggled with them more than Pacquaio did.

But what relevance does that have to do with this thread? And how does it relate to Pacquaio's fight with Marquez?

How Pacquaio struggled with Marquez and Mayweather's fights with Hatton and Oscar are uncomparable.

The thread is "What if Mayweather went life and death with Marquez"

Something Mayweather simply did not do against either Hatton or Oscar.
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Old 11-20-2011, 04:44 PM
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How is Floyd's one hand excuse any different than Pacquiao's leg cramps? And whatever happened in the subsequent fight has no bearing on the first... Castillo outworked, outlanded Floyd by a CLEAR wide margin, especially in power shots and had a much better case for getting the W against Floyd than Marquez does against Pac (in any of their 3 fights). So guys acting like Floyd is unbeatable and has never struggled need to fall back.

Fact is, this is the first instance where Manny didn't blow away a common opponent in a more brutal, more thorough, faster, etc way. So like someone said before, the reaction would be the same as it was when Castillo was really robbed of a W and Floyd got a SD against Oscar.

It's just one fight.
You missed the point by defending Pac's "win", no need to defend. I had it a draw and agree with anyone's argument on what they scored.

The reaction wouldn't be the same... just look at the reactions from "fans" after his last few fights. If he loses one round, its as if he loses the fight. One writer described it as we are so used to seeing Mayweather score an A+ that the moment he scores an A- people tend to look at it as a fail.

However my point is this, Mayweather disputed his "SD win" with an immediate rematch...

Did you feel the same about the 2nd and 3rd rematches between Mayweather and Castillo? Now how many times has Pac got that A- vs JMM?

btw, I had Mayweather beating Castillo both times (I was pulling for Castillo) but had Hoya beating Mayweather (I was pulling for Hoya).

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Wait what?

Did someone say Floyd struggled with Hatton and Oscar.

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Did someone say Floyd struggled with Hatton and Oscar.

*******s hacking wikipedia with this *****
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it took him what? 9 rounds to take Hatton out?
How many did it take Pac?

How many rounds did Oscar win against Pac?

So he clearly had more of a struggle against them than Pac did..
In the Lazcano fight it was clear Hatton was not the same fighter anymore.

Mayweather vs DLH was at 154 with Oscar coming off a TKO win and becoming WBC champion at JMW.

DLH vs Pacquiao was at 147, a weight class DLH hadn't make in a decade, while Oscar was coming off an average win against a 140 pounder at 150 named Steve Forbes, a light puncher who puffed up De La Hoya's face even in being shut out.
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