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Old 11-17-2011, 10:12 AM
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Espn changed their rankings based on Pac not performing as expected, not because he lost. That is not a very strong case to make the change.

Ring Magazine retained Pac and they explained clearly why.

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Old 11-17-2011, 11:45 AM
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Funny, i thought they based it on all the fights both fighters have had. My guess is ESPN realized both floyd and manny have won 12 decisive rounds over JMM each. Floyd of course is 12/12 manny 12/36, evn though he is 2-0-1 against JMM.
I laughed HARD reading that ****. Oh wow.
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Old 11-17-2011, 11:48 AM
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The ring rankings are the most trustworthy. They know Pac is the best because he was due a close fight, otherwise he would be superhuman. Its good Pac had a close fight.

JMM was only a winner in the sense he did much better than expected so JMM should now leave it at that and stop saying he thinks he won when he knows he didnt.

JMM can leave that fight with his head held high, just like Morales could after the maidana fight.
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Old 11-17-2011, 12:08 PM
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The ring rankings are the most trustworthy. They know Pac is the best because he was due a close fight, otherwise he would be superhuman. Its good Pac had a close fight.

JMM was only a winner in the sense he did much better than expected so JMM should now leave it at that and stop saying he thinks he won when he knows he didnt.

JMM can leave that fight with his head held high, just like Morales could after the maidana fight.
If your arguement is you can't drop from the top spot unless you lose, well floyd never lost. If your argument is well floyd went on vacation, Bob just said manny is doing the same thing.
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Old 11-17-2011, 12:09 PM
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Pac win against Marquez < Floyd win weight cheating Marquez = Floyd p4p #1? or maybe because he sucker punched Ortiz to victory?
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Old 11-17-2011, 12:18 PM
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Pac win against Marquez < Floyd win weight cheating Marquez = Floyd p4p #1? or maybe because he sucker punched Ortiz to victory?
Or maybe because the p4p #1 shouldn't struggle with a 9-1 underdog. MAybe because of the struggle dan decided to put floyd #1. Its not such a big deal is it.
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Old 11-17-2011, 12:35 PM
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Pac win against Marquez < Floyd win weight cheating Marquez = Floyd p4p #1? or maybe because he sucker punched Ortiz to victory?
LOL Floyd weighed 150 pounds on fight night against Ortiz and Marquez weighed 150 against Pacquiao this past Saturday so stop bringing up the weight. Just face it the pound for pound champ struggled with a 38 year old lightweight while the the number 2 gy walked right through that lightweight.
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Old 11-17-2011, 01:05 PM
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I agree with the top 3.

Looking at there physical appearance for this fight Maybe Manny tried not "Juicing" for this fight and JMM tried "Juicing" for this fight. Just Sayin.
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Old 11-17-2011, 02:22 PM
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1. Floyd Mayweather Jr

Hits: Even after 16 months out of the ring following his near shutout of Shane Mosley in May 2010, Mayweather returned to action on Sept. 17 and showed not the slightest bit of rust. Still fast and possessing great defense and underrated power, Mayweather knocked out Victor Ortiz (albeit in controversial fashion) in the fourth round to reclaim one of the titles he had previously given up. Now, instead of disappearing on another long layoff, Mayweather has announced plans to return on May 5, ideally against Manny Pacquiao -- if Pacquiao's people will come to the bargaining table.

Misses: It's great that Mayweather seems to be showing real interest in finally facing Pacquiao, but since Pacquiao just fought, how about giving him a little bit of time to unwind before insisting on a negotiation right now? Where was that kind of urgency at any point in the past few years?

2. Manny Pacquiao

Hits: Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez, who had already produced two memorable battles in featherweight and junior lightweight title bouts, met for the third time Nov. 12 and gave fight fans a worthy trilogy with another outstanding and highly competitive fight. With Pacquiao's victory, the path is wide open for him to at long last meet Mayweather in the fight the world wants to see.

Misses: Pacquiao, who was a massive favorite to beat Marquez because they were fighting at welterweight, looked as vulnerable as he has in a long time. Although he eked out a majority decision, few would have quarreled had Marquez gotten the win or had the fight been ruled a draw. Pacquiao looked confused at times and lacked snap on his punches in a less-than-stellar outing. It just wasn't the kind of performance we have come to expect from Pacquiao, especially in light of the fact that Marquez had been wiped out by Mayweather in 2009 in his only other welterweight fight. Although a fourth fight with Marquez is certainly warranted at some point, it absolutely should not be next, which is what Top Rank's Bob Arum, Pacquiao's promoter, is talking about pursuing. Mayweather should be next, and it's going to have to be up to Pacquiao to stand up to Arum and tell him to make a deal. Period.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...boxers-nos-1-3
but since Pacquiao just fought, how about giving him a little bit of time to unwind before insisting on a negotiation right now? Where was that kind of urgency at any point in the past few years?

WELL....the past few years arum was urgent in announcing pacs next opponent the day after the fights he had....
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Old 11-18-2011, 01:26 PM
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