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Old 11-14-2011, 02:53 PM
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Hugh Grant is just a kid who has come to the realization his daddy can't whoop everyone elses daddy's ass.

Be easy on him.
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Old 11-14-2011, 03:06 PM
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The Juice and his Satanic worshippers stoled Moneys #1 P4P spot... just like they stoled Marquez' W.

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Old 11-14-2011, 03:44 PM
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Let see Pacquiao gets a Win over a ranked P4P fighter and losses his P4P spot, while Floyd gets a controversal win over a NON RANKED fighter and is now considered #1.. Folks are seriously getting desperate
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Old 11-14-2011, 03:51 PM
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So Floyd is no1 based on not what he does but rather what pac didnt do last night?

Floyd is no1 in peoples eyes because he beat JMM better than Pac, but when Pac beats people better than floyd, and beats people floyd avoided people make excuses?

p4p isnt based on one fight on one night or day! Floyd since his comeback has beat a never fought at WW, piss drinking bloated fighter in JMM. Who has now learnt from that fight, stopped poisining himself with the piss and has acclimatised to the weight now.
So of course he was going to do better. JMM has seemed like he had eternity to prepare for this fight as well. Just like Floyd had eternity to prepare for JMM.
I will wait for *****s...
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Old 11-14-2011, 03:58 PM
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I thought JMM won the fight but I also know why they gave the fight to Manny. When you're judging the fight youare more focused on what the champ is doing and less on his opponent. I completely the outcome of this fight.

That being said. Manny will be outclassed by Floyd. JMM will last longer against floyd because of his style.
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Old 11-14-2011, 03:59 PM
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Boxing analyst Kieran Mulvaney is expecting ESPN’s and The Ring’s pound-for-pound ratings to be changed soon, as he believes there are no doubts left now that Manny Pacquiao’s welterweight rival Floyd Mayweather Jr. is the best fighter in the world.

“Right now, there's no real debate. Mayweather is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world,” Mulvaney said.

The eight-division world champion and the current World Boxing Organisation Welterweight World Champion (Super Champion), Pacquiao, met Juan Manuel Marquez in their highly-anticipated trilogy bout last weekend on November 12, 2011 at the MGM Grand Arena in Las Vegas.

Instead of winning in a convincing way, the Filipino star hardly managed to earn a controversial majority decision over the Mexican. Therefore, Mulvaney thinks Pacquiao is no longer on top of his game and Mayweather is the best in the world.

Pacquiao and Marquez previously had controversial endings to their fights. Thus, in their concluding fight, people wanted to see Pacquiao winning in a convincing way to clear all doubts but they were surprised when they saw the 38-year-old Marquez controlling the pace and being the aggressor.

Mayweather’s camp has hinted that they finally want to set up a super-fight with Pacquiao and Mulvaney thinks Pacquiao will not be able to pass a Mayweather test.

Mulvaney stated Pacquiao, who is currently rated as the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world, was a heavy favourite and he was expected to walk through his 6 years younger opponent but he was seen totally lost at certain points during the fight and so it is hard to believe if he can really beat Mayweather.

“In some ways, the biggest winner on Saturday night wasn't even in the building,” Mulvaney said, referring to the undefeated Mayweather. Seeing Pacquiao struggle and at times, look lost against a 38-year-old adversary whom many believed he would walk through, how many people still truly believe that Pacquiao would beat Mayweather?” he added.

The undefeated American legend Mayweather, who is a five-division world champion and the World Boxing Council World Welterweight Champion, stands second to Pacquiao in the pound-for-pound rankings hence their fight is one of the most eagerly awaited fights in the sport because people want to see who the best pound-for-pound fighter between them is. Let’s see if a fight between these two is made.
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I told many of the *******ed fanny boys that Mayweather will be the #1 P4P and that if Pac wants to be #1 again, he has to earn it May 5th....

EVERYONE wants the fight, "there are no issues". For the hype of the fight I think that nobody should have Mayweather or Pac as #1 P4P.

The fight on May 5th should be called;

Mayweather vs Pacquaio: #1 P4P
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Old 11-14-2011, 04:02 PM
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So Floyd is no1 based on not what he does but rather what pac didnt do last night?

Floyd is no1 in peoples eyes because he beat JMM better than Pac, but when Pac beats people better than floyd, and beats people floyd avoided people make excuses?

p4p isnt based on one fight on one night or day! Floyd since his comeback has beat a never fought at WW, piss drinking bloated fighter in JMM. Who has now learnt from that fight, stopped poisining himself with the piss and has acclimatised to the weight now.
So of course he was going to do better. JMM has seemed like he had eternity to prepare for this fight as well. Just like Floyd had eternity to prepare for JMM.
Pac hasn't done shyt since 2009. After last weekends performance, he is no longer #1....

Nobody should be, May 5th, the fight between Mayweather and Pac should be for the #1 spot.
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Old 11-14-2011, 04:04 PM
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Let see Pacquiao gets a Win over a ranked P4P fighter and losses his P4P spot, while Floyd gets a controversal win over a NON RANKED fighter and is now considered #1.. Folks are seriously getting desperate
naw son floyd won by 4th round ko,..manny got his ass kicked and got a gift over a ..dont try to say"oh hes a ranked p4p fighter now..cause when floyd kicked his ass he was #2 p4p and ya'll still dont wanna give him any ****ing credit
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Old 11-14-2011, 04:10 PM
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Can't argue with that. Now lets see him prove it in the ring. I give Floyd the advantage, but if this weekend reminded us of anything, never underestimate a hungry underdog with something to prove.
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Old 11-14-2011, 04:10 PM
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So Floyd is no1 based on not what he does but rather what pac didnt do last night?

Floyd is no1 in peoples eyes because he beat JMM better than Pac, but when Pac beats people better than floyd, and beats people floyd avoided people make excuses?

p4p isnt based on one fight on one night or day! Floyd since his comeback has beat a never fought at WW, piss drinking bloated fighter in JMM. Who has now learnt from that fight, stopped poisining himself with the piss and has acclimatised to the weight now.
So of course he was going to do better. JMM has seemed like he had eternity to prepare for this fight as well. Just like Floyd had eternity to prepare for JMM.
Well, Floyd never actually lost the #1 and Pacquiao never actually took it from ANYONE. Get that straight.

Also, you're comparison about a double standard is far from accurate. Floyd beat the better versions of De La Hoya, Hatton, Mosley, and Marquez at 144. Marquez was viewed as a better fight and still really good going into his fight with Floyd in 2009, and Floyd dominated him. Marquez was viewed as a past it fighter, who wasn't even as good as he was 2-3 years ago, who had beend ominated over 2 years ago at that weight, and arguably beat Pacquiao again. Therefore, you're statement doesn't make sense, givent he fact that Mayweather still fought the better version of Marquez at 144 lbs.

So....you're saying that Marquez was magically better against Pacquiao because he didn't drink his piss??? He didn't train hard for Floyd??? Get the f**k outta here. Hey, I was with you on the whole "Pacquiao is going to kill Marquez. TKO in 6 or 7." I thought that as well, especially since Marquez isn't even as good as he was 2-3 years ago. Since losing to Floyd, he beat Diaz by KO, but Diaz was beating him on points up until the KO, and he had gotten dropped by Katsidis, and struggled in that fight. Marquez was viewed as a way past it fighter going into the fight, you can't deny it.

Given the facts that Floyd beat Ortiz, young and in his prime, coming off big wins, and a guy that Pacquiao declined to fight after Ortiz-Berto, and was clearly out classing Ortiz, he should be put at #1. Sure, Victor had some success against Floyd, but Floyd for those 4 rounds was handily beating Ortiz, out landed him by like 50 punches and a 17% higher connect rate, and out working him! It wasn't close, though Ortiz had his moments in the 2nd round (i scored the 2nd even, could have gone either way) and the last minute of the 4th.

Since Floyd looked rather impressive against Ortiz, and Pacquiao dodged a bullet against a way past it Marquez, and givent he fact that Mayweather had previously dominated Marquez, I think Floyd does deserve the #1 ranking. Marquez is past is prime, past even how good he was 2-3 years ago, but he showed that he still has it. For the record, I scored the fight 114-114 a draw.

Max Kellerman said it best...."Pacquiao hasn't fought an opponent that still has it since Marquez in 2008".

Pacquiao's run has EVERYTHING to do with his opponents. He fought De La Hoya at 147, coming off a loss to Floyd and a horrid outing against Forbes. Hatton, after a KO loss to Floyd and horrid outings against Lazcano and Malignaggi. Cotto, after the KO loss to Margarito and a horrid outing against Clottey. Clottey, hadn't even won a boxing match in 2 years. Margarito, coming off a KO loss to Mosley. Mosley, coming off a loss to Floyd and a horrid outing against Mora. Marquez, coming off wins, but wins where he had been seen slipping big time, but coming off wins non the less.

You're argument seems to be, "what has Floyd done to get put at #1"???? Well....he never actually lost #1, and Pac never really took it from him.

Floyd has 3 good wins that clearly put him above Pac. He dominated then #2 in the world Marquez, who was viewed as still really good, and who has since showed he can be very good at 144, as he arguably beat Pacquiao at 144. Then, he beat Mosley, than # 9-10 (can't remember) in the world, coming off a big KO win over the Margarito, the last time we saw a somewhat prime Margarito. Then, he beat Victor Ortiz, coming off 5 straight wins (including a win over previously unbeaten Berto) and a draw he should have won over highly rated Peterson.

Marquez, Mosley, Ortiz.....given the facts going into the fight, Mayweather should be back at #1, though he probably won't be.

For the record, Arum revealed by saying "Manny will finally call Floyd's bluff" after the Marquez fight, that Manny in fact NEVER agreed to be randomly tested without a cutoff date before, NEVER. So, how did Floyd dodge Pacquiao than???

If there are no more issues regarding the fight, it should be no problem for Arum to make the fight, but it's up to BOB ARUM, Manny confirmed that after the fight on Saturday.

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