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Old 11-10-2011, 09:28 AM
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Probably between 150 and 300k, depending on the price and undercard quality.
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Old 11-10-2011, 09:35 AM
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Forget who wins and why, and how the fight plays out. Let's just focus on the ppv #s....

I'd say 700K....
Bro....no way. That's entirely optimistic. If it did half of that it would be very good, and I think it can.

Three Fitty thousand buys for two guys who....have either ever even headlined a World Championship Boxing? That would be very good. 700 is astronomical.
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Old 11-10-2011, 09:45 AM
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Bro....no way. That's entirely optimistic. If it did half of that it would be very good, and I think it can.

Three Fitty thousand buys for two guys who....have either ever even headlined a World Championship Boxing? That would be very good. 700 is astronomical.

i think you're underestimating the drawing power of canelo! and if kirkland puts on another performance like that - he will be able to attract the CASUAL fan. . .

but i think 2012 might be a little too early to do over 500k buys. . . i think like you said, maybe after a world championship boxing appearance for both (get kirkland a title). . . and 3-4 more fights. . . I think these guys can headline a pretty damn big PPV card. .

As to who will win - I honestly think unless Kirkland improves his defense, Canelo will win. . . Canelo throws some CRISP, CRACKING combinations - straight punches and whizzing hooks right on path. . . kirkland still throws cruder shots. .. but as kirkland showed, he is probably the most fit guy when training with wolfe; stamina, punch resistance (different from "chin"), and toughness = SECOND TO NONE. . . he's also a better athlete than canelo - faster, stronger, and more explosive. . .
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Old 11-10-2011, 09:47 AM
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I think if promoted correctly - oscar can draw a comparison to mike tyson (although tyson was a lot more technically sound) to the CASUAL fan. . . Casual fans love NOTHING more than a guy who gets hit a lot, and hits (the opponent) a lot. . .
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Old 11-10-2011, 09:49 AM
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i think you're underestimating the drawing power of canelo! and if kirkland puts on another performance like that - he will be able to attract the CASUAL fan. . .

but i think 2012 might be a little too early to do over 500k buys. . . i think like you said, maybe after a world championship boxing appearance for both (get kirkland a title). . . and 3-4 more fights. . . I think these guys can headline a pretty damn big PPV card. .

As to who will win - I honestly think unless Kirkland improves his defense, Canelo will win. . . Canelo throws some CRISP, CRACKING combinations - straight punches and whizzing hooks right on path. . . kirkland still throws cruder shots. .. but as kirkland showed, he is probably the most fit guy when training with wolfe; stamina, punch resistance (different from "chin"), and toughness = SECOND TO NONE. . . he's also a better athlete than canelo - faster, stronger, and more explosive. . .
I'm not underestimating his drawing power, 300k for a guy at Canelo's level is really, really good.

700k is A LOT of buys. Pacquiao/Clottey did like 750...that's a freaking Pacquiao fight. Canelo has his niche and he's very popular within it, but come on.

Ortiz brings more than Kirkland and a Canelo/Ortiz PPV would be lucky to get to 500k. Big PPV numbers are more rare than I think you're realizing, especially nowadays.
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Old 11-10-2011, 10:24 AM
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WHy do you want more PPV fighters?
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Old 11-10-2011, 10:26 AM
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**** that *****. That's an undercard fight.
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Old 11-10-2011, 03:06 PM
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They would bearly get to 200K. More like 150K.
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Old 11-10-2011, 03:19 PM
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James Kirkland is to much for Canelo right now and in Sep 2012 its a fight I would buy
thats a bit much in my opinion.the guy was KO'ed in one not too long ago and was almost KO'ed in the 1st in this last fight.
I think it'd be entertaining but the clean shots Angulo was able to land would definitely land from Canelo. Maybe even cleaner and more often.

Good fight for sure
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