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Old 09-30-2011, 11:06 PM
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Default History Section: If David Haye Does Retire How Do You Rate His Legacy?

He is due to retire in a few weeks time and while nothing is certain, lets say he does.

How do you rate his legacies & acievements? ATG Puncher? ATG Cruiserweight? Etc?

Achievements
World Silver Medalalist Amatuer World Championships 2001
-WBC,WBA,WBO Cruiserweight Champion.(Lineal Champion)
-WBA Heavyweight Champion

Notable Wins
Giacobbe Fragomeni, Jean Marc Mormeck, Enzo Maccarinelli, Nikolay Valuev John Ruiz.
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Old 09-30-2011, 11:07 PM
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to be honest he doesn't rate at all
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Old 09-30-2011, 11:09 PM
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to be honest he doesn't rate at all
What do you mean. Dosent every champion have to rate somewere?

Am no big Haye fan. But he was lineal Cruiserweight Champion & WBA Heavyweight Champion which is no easy feat.
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Old 09-30-2011, 11:18 PM
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he pisses me off. the guy is literally a con artist.
popular boxers are generally good for the sport buy haye rips his fans off consistently.


no way he's a hall of famer
not a great fighter


certainly a tough nut to crack for most CW's with his size and handspeed and punching power. decent footspeed as well. never had a good chin, CW or otherwise, which is generally the most important attribute when matching historic level big men (who will be able to hit each other)
but CW is the weakest division in boxing historically, so that doesn't mean a ton


evander holyfield, for example, would knock him out. i have no doubts.


his heavyweight accomplishments don't mean much to me either

i think ruiz would take him in his prime, and he was nothing to write home about anyway.
he fought fraudley !! what an awful fight that was!
nikolay valuev is friggin nikolay valuev, and haye still threw almost no punches.
even barrett touched him up

and then he laid an egg against wladimir in what should have been the biggest night of his life. he promptly blamed his little toe, and after a few months on a beach he calls out vitali


guy is a con artist

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Old 09-30-2011, 11:18 PM
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Haye would rate very highly on an overhyped/underachiever list.
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Old 09-30-2011, 11:19 PM
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Haye would rate very highly on an overhyped/underachiever list.
Do you belive he was a underachiever?
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Old 09-30-2011, 11:24 PM
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Do you belive he was a underachiever?
Absolutely. He appeared to be naturally gifted and did very little with it. The Klitschko fight speaks for itself. And his effort in the Valuev fight was pathetic.
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Old 09-30-2011, 11:25 PM
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Absolutely. He appeared to be naturally gifted and did very little with it. The Klitschko fight speaks for itself. And his effort in the Valuev fight was pathetic.
I agree when he turned it on his speed & power were always extremly impressive.
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Old 09-30-2011, 11:36 PM
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A decent ABC champion. I thought Mormeck was a very good win, back when Haye was actually a fighter. But he'll now mostly be remembered for the Wlad fiasco after 3 years of boasting as if he were Mike Tyson and George Foreman rolled into one. And doing for the sore toe what David Beckham did for the broken metatarsal. He'd probably make it onto a top 10 cruiserweight list, but as that division's history is hardly overflowing with talent, that's not really saying much.
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A decent ABC champion. I thought Mormeck was a very good win, back when Haye was actually a fighter. But he'll now mostly be remembered for the Wlad fiasco after 3 years of boasting as if he were Mike Tyson and George Foreman rolled into one. And doing for the sore toe what David Beckham did for the broken metatarsal. He'd probably make it onto a top 10 cruiserweight list, but as that division's history is hardly overflowing with talent, that's not really saying much.
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