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Old 09-21-2011, 06:34 AM
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Post Comments Thread For: Arum: Ortiz Wanted a Way Out, So He Fouled Floyd

NEW YORK — Count Bob Arum among those that think Floyd Mayweather Jr. shouldn’t have hit Victor Ortiz when Ortiz’s hands were down Saturday night. [Click Here To Read More]
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Old 09-21-2011, 06:43 AM
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I have to agree with Bob on this one, Ortiz wanted out of there man. Take a look at Diego Corales after his fight with Floyd if you want to see a fighter who cared about losing. Total mismatch.. R.I.P Chico
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Old 09-21-2011, 07:04 AM
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Keep your million $$ sponsor out of the sport then (if it even exists) Fickle or what? Some great fights on that card, and this 'marketing director' is upset by a sucker punch.

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Old 09-21-2011, 07:15 AM
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This is one of the few times that I agree with Arum - Ortiz wanted a way out of the fight but he didn't quit in a way that would get him criticized. Ortiz could have made the count but he wanted nothing to do with Floyd's right hand anymore.
I looked at the way Ortiz was getting up, there's no way he was out of it. How long did the doctor stay with him after the KO?
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Old 09-21-2011, 07:47 AM
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gotta agree with arum on this. ortiz is a mental midget.
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Old 09-21-2011, 08:07 AM
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I thought Arum was slick enough to have been able to convince this guy that these are part of the game and that makes boxing interesting..Am not surprise he is a lawyer by profession.He is so good are turning everything to his advantage including Pacquaio's finances.
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Old 09-21-2011, 08:35 AM
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Ortiz is a quitter afterall. He should retire after that script.
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Old 09-21-2011, 08:51 AM
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I don't think he wanted a way out at that point.

He was connecting with a few shots at that moment in time. I think it was more frustration he was letting out at the lack of success building up to it.

But I do believe he deliberately stayed down after the sucker punch. He was happy it was over.
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Old 09-21-2011, 09:42 AM
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Lol when its bob arum the biggest mayweather hater who talks , *******s and bum ass haters have to shut their mouth and listen to the god .



They cant say he was paid to say this or he is riding mayweathers dick
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Old 09-21-2011, 10:00 AM
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This is what I've come to expect from Golden Boy. They knew Ortiz wasn't ready for Mayweather or the big stage. One fight doesn't make anybody, a lesson that should have been learned from Buster Douglas. Let a guy put together a string of 3 or 4 fights and then put him in the big time. Berto biggest win was a life or death struggle with Collazo. Berto although talanted was overated and beating him should not put you in elite status because he wasn't in elite status, like I said his biggest win was against Collazo. Golden Boy teamed with Floyd took advantage of the less knowledgeable boxing public and casual fan one again like matching him with Marquez at 146 when Marquez only fought above 130 once at 135. Now matching him with a very green Ortiz. Although Ortiz had a belt he won it from a guy who biggest win was a battle with Collazo. Titles mean nothing unless its the lineal title or Ring magazine title, which normally are the same person. Ortiz was a alphabet Champion and he proved it. With his performance and mental breakdown.

The only one that loses is boxing because when you promote a fight that shouldn't take place you lose the casual fan and new fans. How do you gain fans from the overmatched Ortiz headbutting Mayweather, the Mayweather sucker punching, to cursing out 80 year old men on TV. That does not bring your sport to the main stream. But, you won't lose the base because people who know about boxing know to stay away from that BS, like matching Floyd with Marquez at 146 and Ortiz. Manny's 3rd fight with Marquez is BS but the difference here is Manny is an KO action fighter and what we've learned from Tyson, Gatti, Corrales, Castillo, Ward, Tszyu, Margarito, Cotto, and Pacquiao - Win-Lose-Draw, everybody wins when there is a KO seeking action fighter fighting. Blood, KnockDowns, Heated Exchanges, etc. etc. Boxing will never die but at the same time will never be main stream again as long as it tries to sell the public Ortiz vs. Mayweather as a must see event...
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