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Old 09-19-2011, 09:39 PM
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'suckerpunch' is a figurative term here.

in boxing, it doesn't exist. you can call what floyd did a 'suckerpunch' figuratively, but there are only legal and illegal punches in boxing, no suckerpunches. the first commandment of the sport is 'protect yourself, all times'. if time is in, one's duty is to have one's eyes on the opponent with readiness to defend oneself. by definition of the fundamentals and rulebook of boxing, suckerpunches do not exist.



i know you'll find it hard to wrap your pea-brain around this, you dumb, flipflopping, frontrunning, dickhopping faggot, because 1.) you're incredibly -- and i do mean incredibly -- stupid, 2.) you've never boxed and 3.) you know nothing about boxing, but i'm right.
in other words, you're a limp-d!cked douchebag who doesn't know what suckerpunch means???!!!
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Old 09-19-2011, 09:40 PM
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Cortez didn't see it tho...its like WWF when the manager distracts the ref and the villain pulls out his brass knuckles and KOs the good guy...
Haha...more like Ellerbe came out from underneath the ring and gave Floyd a steel seat. Floyd smashed Ortiz on the head with the steel seat and toss the chair back to Ellerbe. Cortez is going to look around right when Ortiz is on the ground.
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Old 09-19-2011, 09:41 PM
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Cortez bungled the job by looking somewhere outside the ring and Mayweather like true guttertrash took advantage of the situation and Ortiz's good nature.


He never resumed the action.
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Old 09-19-2011, 10:03 PM
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Talked to Keith Kizer of NV Commission. Cortez pointed to time keeper and said time in. Punches were legal, according to Kizer. #boxing

http://twitter.com/#!/KevinI/status/115287548951146496





Someone needs to go back and rewatch that fight.

It's confusing, sometimes refs say "lets go" to touch'em up, then time in. It looks like that's what Ortiz was reacting to. I still consider that a legal sucker punch, a championship fight should never end this way, especially for a guy who only fights once a year. There was a lot of pissed off people that night in the crowd, that's not what they paid to see, thats for sure.

id say everyone is at fault to a degree
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Old 09-19-2011, 10:06 PM
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No simpathy for Ortiz at all in this. I don't like the way the fight was won, but I don't blame Floyd at all, he did what he had to do. Honestly how many times do you have to let a dude hug and kiss on you before you remind that fool that you're in a fight? You have got to be kidding me! Cortez motioned them together and said let's go. If you want to continue to kiss and hug then that's on you but the other guy wants to fight. Like it or not the punch was legal. You can cry all you want but it won't change the outcome. I wish the punch was the other way around and Ortiz had put Floyd on his behind like that, but that didn't happen.
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Old 09-19-2011, 10:08 PM
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No simpathy for Ortiz at all in this. I don't like the way the fight was won, but I don't blame Floyd at all, he did what he had to do. Honestly how many times do you have to let a dude hug and kiss on you before you remind that fool that you're in a fight? You have got to be kidding me! Cortez motioned them together and said let's go. If you want to continue to kiss and hug then that's on you but the other guy wants to fight. Like it or not the punch was legal. You can cry all you want but it won't change the outcome. I wish the punch was the other way around and Ortiz had put Floyd on his behind like that, but that didn't happen.
If Floyd didn't want to "kiss and hug",

why did he accept Victors embrace at all?
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Old 09-19-2011, 10:14 PM
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If Floyd didn't want to "kiss and hug",

why did he accept Victors embrace at all?
He tricked him. Cheap but legal.
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Old 09-19-2011, 10:17 PM
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if cortez saw the suckerpunch, maybe he'd have given ortiz a chance to recover and continue the fight
lol and maybe pigs would fly, it's Cortez we're talking about
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Old 09-19-2011, 10:22 PM
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If Floyd didn't want to "kiss and hug",

why did he accept Victors embrace at all?
Look at your own sig. Floyd came up and touched gloves with Ortiz. After that he put his hands up, he wasn't looking to hug he was looking to fight. How many times would you let a dude hug and kiss on you before you resume fighting? Cause from the way I see it a lot of people on here would still be hugging and kissing now if they left it up to Ortiz.
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Look at your own sig. Floyd came up and touched gloves with Ortiz. After that he put his hands up, he wasn't looking to hug he was looking to fight. How many times would you let a dude hug and kiss on you before you resume fighting? Cause from the way I see it a lot of people on here would still be hugging and kissing now if they left it up to Ortiz.

When two fighters embrace in that manner, they usually, out of respect,

create a space and acknowledge that the other is ready to fight.


Floyd used the opportunity and sucker punched his opponent. He pretended to be cordial about the situation and then as Victor was retreating back to position, sucker punched him.

Now if Floyd didn't want another hug, he should have just pushed him off from the jump. But no, he acted like everything was all good and teed off.
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