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Old 09-08-2011, 01:43 PM
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Default Nick Diaz and the Decline of MMA.

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In historic times a fighter with no masters that fought with a blood and guts mentality of no surrender was idolized and admired for possessing uncommon courage, and for giving inspiration to the working man who struggled through his daily life.

In modern times that fighter has proven to be Nick Diaz, and, barring a disingenuous agenda, no one can honestly deny that his fight history fulfills such a billing.

A fighter such as Nick Diaz is the physical manifestation of the truly independent and rugged, the type who will see a job is done, blood and bruises be damned, with not a single moment of pouting self-pity through the adversity of the battle at hand. And, more often than not, such a mentality has led his hand to be raised in victory when the dust of the fight has cleared.

In more traditional times, Nick Diaz would have been rallied around by young and old of all creeds and colors as his fighting spirit was given tribute for the inspiration it provided. Children would have called him “Hero” as their fathers and mothers smiled at the notion of their sons and daughters developing the same uncompromising will of determination that Diaz shows every time he steps into a fight.

But somewhere along the line things have distorted. No longer is a man such as Nick Diaz revered for his tenaciously independent traits, rather, he is disrespected for them. People now see a person who has no interest in bowing to a corporate master and they scoff and scorn with contempt for their fellow man that refuses to be assimilated into the corporate Borg they have so willfully embraced. The flame of righteous rebellion has lost its status as a badge of courage, replaced by a groveling love for the chains of corporate control.

Fighters such as Nick Diaz are quickly becoming an antiquated idea in the mind of the collective, and are being replaced by poster boys of a primmed and delicate design, precisely tuned for their given purpose of serving their company master’s goal of increasing his own profit margin.

No longer do the corporate CEO thugs and mobsters wish to promote champions of righteous guts and glory, preferring instead controlled commodities, gelded of their independence and cast from the sheepish mold of A Brave New World.

And it seems those who have been traditionally tasked with keeping in check those natural impulses of a corporate dictatorship run wild, the people, have become perfectly excited at allowing to take place this destruction of what a fighter used to be, what a fighter should be.
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Old 09-08-2011, 04:38 PM
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lol @ this ridiculousness.

So now Zuffa is the bad guy and Diaz is the good guy because Diaz is an irresponsible fool.

I really don't understand whats wrong with asking a fighter to show up to promote a fight. This isn't an amateur sport, it's a BUSINESS. A business for EVERYONE not just Zuffa but the fighters as well.

This article makes it look like Diaz would be doing the UFC a favor and not himself. I don't think your realize how many casual fans get introduced to certain fighters from pressers. I know first hand because a lot of my friends are casuals and they would tell me about what happened at certain press conferences and that would make them want to watch a fight even though they aren't true fans of the sport. Ex: Pascal-Hopkins press-conf brawl got one of my friends hyped to see the fight even though he's not into boxing, not even casually.

This would have benefited Diaz just as much as it benefits Zuffa. Remember, promoting is a Zuffa expense, not a fighters expense. So basically fighters are getting promoted for free.

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Old 09-08-2011, 11:33 PM
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That article was pretty gay.

Why don't we all support James Toney instead? The way he refused to give in to 'the man' and refused to 'do what he was told' in learning wrestling and BJJ, the way he stood up to UFC bully boys in being a fat cunt and showing the crack of his ass at the weigh-in...kids should gather round the fireplace and talk fondly of such heroics while mother prepares the food that father caught that very same day.
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Old 09-09-2011, 12:11 AM
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This whole Diaz situation seems scripted as fuuaark.

UFC needs to tread carefully.
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Old 09-09-2011, 04:27 AM
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Diaz is acting like someone with a drug problem...very sketchy
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dana white is vince mcmahon and nick diaz is stone cold
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Diaz is still an idiot and anybody defending his latest actions is what I would call "decline of mma". If Diaz was allowed to just skip events set up by the UFC, then who's stopping other fighters from doing so? They have to punish the idiots who do this just like any other company would to its employees.
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Diaz is still an idiot and anybody defending his latest actions is what I would call "decline of mma". If Diaz was allowed to just skip events set up by the UFC, then who's stopping other fighters from doing so? They have to punish the idiots who do this just like any other company would to its employees.
I didn't know that Nick Diaz and other UFC fighters were putting in 9-5 shifts at Zuffa headquarters.

Hence "employee" is a misnomer parroted by ignorant people.
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Come on man.

Dana White is not this cool:

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Come on man.

Dana White is not this cool:

What you talkin about? D. White is even down with the hiphop scene.

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