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Old 09-11-2011, 06:43 PM
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Ortiz jab was almost non-existent against Berto.
His jab is non-existant in all of his fights. Literally.
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Old 09-11-2011, 07:21 PM
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His jab is non-existant in all of his fights. Literally.
this. obviously
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Old 09-11-2011, 07:23 PM
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Ortiz sparring partners are smaller but then again they are faster and have slick styles, except Flores, I've never seen him before. Dargan is very good at punching and movign away which should serve Ortiz good and Forbes well we've all seen him.

Mayweathers partners are bigger then those of Ortiz but then again are a tad slower but have more power. None of them a solid jab like Ortiz but rely on power shots all the time.

I think both guys have got solid work.
huh? sechew powell usually throws 300+ jabs in 10-12 round fights.
ortiz throws under 200.

in the berto/peterson/campbell fights, ortiz landed a total of 30 jabs out of 431.

in the rematch with latimore, powell landed 107 jabs out of 396. his jab output is almost as much as ortiz in 3 fights and he landed 3+ times as many.

*****...latimore landed 50 jabs out of 374 in that same fight.

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Old 09-11-2011, 09:27 PM
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Mayweather's camp looks good. He got all the big south paws he could find. Hell he would have Said Ouali as well if Ouali wasn't training for a fight with Carson Jones on the undercard.

Victor Ortiz's on the other hand, well Steve Forbes is a good choice. But Karl Dargan and Tony Flores. I know Dargan because Shane Mosley used him to prep for Mayweather... and that turned out like ****. And Tony Flores, well I never heard of Flores and I am not big on following 24/7, so I am limited to using boxrec for that and well These are the only two guys who are active and named Tony Flores:
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...8474&cat=boxer
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...8825&cat=boxer

So great, You have a former champ, who sorta fights like Mayweather, not really but probably as close as you will get, the Prestigeous UBO Inter-continental champion, and either a ****ty journeyman from Philly or a very green prospect from Mexico.
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Old 09-11-2011, 09:30 PM
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I think Ortiz should have gotten Joan Guzman to spar, that would have been the perfect sparring partner there is to emulate Floyd.
Idk, Guzman right now must be like 180lbs. An in shape Guzman is the closest to Mayweather that you can get. You figure out Guzman, you've got Mayweather figured, well kinda.

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Old 09-11-2011, 09:31 PM
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huh? sechew powell usually throws 300+ jabs in 10-12 round fights.
ortiz throws under 200.

in the berto/peterson/campbell fights, ortiz landed a total of 30 jabs out of 431.

in the rematch with latimore, powell landed 107 jabs out of 396. his jab output is almost as much as ortiz in 3 fights and he landed 3+ times as many.

*****...latimore landed 50 jabs out of 374 in that same fight.

PAWNED!!!
I was going to respond reasonably until I saw the bold part.
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Old 09-13-2011, 10:40 PM
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Eddie Gomez is also a sparring partner for OrTREES.
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Old 09-13-2011, 10:47 PM
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Bradley would be good, Guzman is similar and given that its sparring, age/freshness isn't that important as long as their are multiple sparring partners.
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