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Old 09-04-2011, 05:41 PM #11
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Most of Ali's best opponents would hardly make cruiserweight in today;s boxing, they were small men.
Its funny when I hear stuff like this. Look at todays division. 2 of the the best HWs in the world actually did fight at Cruiserweight, and one even at LHW. Not to mention that guys like Chambers, Povetkin, Boytsov and Chagaev would all weigh about 200lbs if they actually lost weight, all of them have a lot of extra fat they could lose. well, maybe not so much Boytsov, but hes clearly not that big of a guy anyway.

Thats most of the best guys in the division right there. The Klitschko brothers are just exception heavyweights, its not like theyre dominating because of their size, theyre just plain overall better.

oh, and the best two wins over Wladimir's career are over Byrd and Haye. Both of them are definitely no bigger than say Foreman, Norton, Lyle, and Frazier.

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Old 09-04-2011, 05:47 PM #12
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You're overstating it

Ken Norton was 6'3 210+
George Foreman was 6'4 220+
Yeah sure a few of his opponents were big but most were not. And a lot of the guys he fought were out of shape and had fat hanging around their waist.

A big in shape HW that could box would be the end of Ali. Foreman couldn't box to save his life, that's why he was called the zombie lol.

6'5 lennox lewis would have diced ali up in 6 rounds
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Old 09-04-2011, 05:48 PM #13
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Most of Ali's best opponents would hardly make cruiserweight in today;s boxing, they were small men.
Those opponents Ali fought were natural heavyweights, what are you talking about?
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Yeah sure a few of his opponents were big but most were not. And a lot of the guys he fought were out of shape and had fat hanging around their waist.

A big in shape HW that could box would be the end of Ali. Foreman couldn't box to save his life, that's why he was called the zombie lol.

6'5 lennox lewis would have diced ali up in 6 rounds
like who? His best wins over Liston, Foreman, Frazier, Norton, Patterson...no way you could call them out of shape or fat.


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Yeah sure a few of his opponents were big but most were not. And a lot of the guys he fought were out of shape and had fat hanging around their waist.

A big in shape HW that could box would be the end of Ali. Foreman couldn't box to save his life, that's why he was called the zombie lol.

6'5 lennox lewis would have diced ali up in 6 rounds
Even though he couldn't stop Ray Mercer?
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Yeah sure a few of his opponents were big but most were not. And a lot of the guys he fought were out of shape and had fat hanging around their waist.

A big in shape HW that could box would be the end of Ali. Foreman couldn't box to save his life, that's why he was called the zombie lol.

6'5 lennox lewis would have diced ali up in 6 rounds
Come on now you're just being ridiculous
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Yeah sure a few of his opponents were big but most were not. And a lot of the guys he fought were out of shape and had fat hanging around their waist.
That's a fitting description of todays heavyweight scene. What are you referring too? give me some specifics.

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A big in shape HW that could box would be the end of Ali. Foreman couldn't box to save his life, that's why he was called the zombie lol.
Yeah, he looked like a zombie against Ali. Most would. What's your point?
Foreman made up for technical weaknesses by hitting like a truck, though he possesed a good Jab.

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Pretty amusing. Lewis wasn't even close to dicing up Ray Mercer over the distance, someone incomparable to Ali's opposition. Study the Frank Bruno fight before lewis stopped him. Ernie terell was 6'6.

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And a lot of the guys he fought were out of shape and had fat hanging around their waist.
^^^^^ This describes all the Heavyweight contenders of today. Yet another classic Forza FAIL.

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Yeah sure a few of his opponents were big but most were not. And a lot of the guys he fought were out of shape and had fat hanging around their waist.

A big in shape HW that could box would be the end of Ali. Foreman couldn't box to save his life, that's why he was called the zombie lol.

6'5 lennox lewis would have diced ali up in 6 rounds
Unlike a lot of todays heavyweight contenders?

Peter, Solis, even James Toney?
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