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Old 08-30-2011, 06:46 PM
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Over 5000 posts and you don't realise that styles make fights. I don't see how that makes sense lol
Well, let me put it real simple like so you can understand my original post;

What does Ortiz do better then Pac that would ever give him a better shot at beating Mayweather?

I'll wait.
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Old 08-30-2011, 07:12 PM
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Still waiting.
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Old 08-30-2011, 07:17 PM
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Well, let me put it real simple like so you can understand my original post;

What does Ortiz do better then Pac that would ever give him a better shot at beating Mayweather?

I'll wait.
Physical dimensions. That is not a "do", but that matters for Floyd structurally.

Floyd jabs Ortiz, Vic is kinda in range.

Floyd jabs the illiterate congressman from out of range.
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Old 08-30-2011, 07:17 PM
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This guy has to be pushing like 90 years old now? He was middle aged when he was training Ali ffs. Still a legend though.

both floyd and pac are winning their next fights
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Old 08-30-2011, 07:25 PM
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Physical dimensions. That is not a "do", but that matters for Floyd structurally.

Floyd jabs Ortiz, Vic is kinda in range.

Floyd jabs the illiterate congressman from out of range.
He is bigger, but stylistically i don't see Ortiz giving May more problems then Pac would.
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Old 08-30-2011, 07:34 PM
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Dundee offered his selections when asked about fights featuring WBC welterweight titleholder Victor Ortiz (29-2-2, 22 knockouts) and Floyd Mayweather Jr. (41-0, 25 KOs), and, WBO welterweight beltholder Manny Pacquiao (53-3-2, 38 KOs) and WBA and WBO lightweight strap holder Juan Manuel Marquez (53-5-1, 39 KOs), respectively, on Sept. 17 and Nov. 12.

"Tough fight. But if I had a fighter to choose to fight against Mayweather, it would be one who fights like Ortiz. Result? Tough, split-decision. But Ortiz may be the winner," said Dundee.

"Marquez will give Pacquiao a tough fight every day that they're alive. Another tough fight, like I said. Probably Pacquiao's toughest fight, because Marquez is a guy who knows how to fight him. Decision, split, Marquez."

As far as a potential bout between Mayweather and Pacquiao?

"Mayweather wins. I just don't know why Mayweather's not fighting him," said Dundee. "He walks around saying that he's the best fighter in the world? Well, fight the sucker. I think that he beats Pacquiao."
Dundee has been getting things wrong for the past 7-8 years so I wouldnt take him seriously.
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Old 08-30-2011, 07:38 PM
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Neither Ortiz or JMM are getting a decision or a split decision for that matter over 2 of boxing's cash cow!
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Old 08-30-2011, 07:58 PM
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Dundee is a legend but as someone said i dont think he pays too much full on attention to the sport nowadays
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:00 PM
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maybe if he it was 40 years ago n he was the trainer.
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Old 08-30-2011, 09:14 PM
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Neither Ortiz or JMM are getting a decision or a split decision for that matter over 2 of boxing's cash cow!
that's a VERY interesting point right there!
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