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Old 08-10-2011, 06:48 PM
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Default Wlad Klitschko has a great quote in The Ring which I think is 100% true

I'm paraphrasing: "My three losses, if I could take those back I wouldn't. They made me who I am today, a better fighter and a better person."

There are TONS of examples in boxing where guys suffer early career losses that make them better (hopkins, Klitschko, Donaire, etc.). Likewise there are a ton of guys who are undefeated for many years, and when they finally lose they completely fall off (Pavlik, Trinidad, etc.).

I've always been a believer that in most case scenarios, an early loss is a good thing. There are of course exceptions to the rule like Floyd Mayweather or I'm sure some young guy with a lot of talent just gets blasted and never recovers (maybe a guy like Jaidon Codrington or someone like that could have been something).
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Old 08-10-2011, 07:04 PM
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There is a fairly famous saying that "you learn more from losing than winning"
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Old 08-10-2011, 07:06 PM
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There is a fairly famous saying that "you learn more from losing than winning"
Tell that to undefeated fighters who brag about their 0.
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Old 08-10-2011, 07:39 PM
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I am a believer that a early loss/or losses are better for a fighter.

I mean Wlad, Hopkins, Marquez, Pacquiao are all guys who suffered losses early in their careers (In Wlad's and Pacquiao's case, their early losses were by TKO/KO) but all those guys are now regarded as the best fighters in the world.
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Old 08-10-2011, 07:41 PM
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something to think about for sure.

Imagine floyds legacy if he had lost that first castillo fight. I think he could have been better off for it.
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Old 08-10-2011, 07:53 PM
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something to think about for sure.

Imagine floyds legacy if he had lost that first castillo fight. I think he could have been better off for it.
It certainly might of changed things.

I've always been interested in how Mayweather would react to a loss. That of course would need to happen to find out lol.
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Old 08-10-2011, 07:55 PM
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something to think about for sure.

Imagine floyds legacy if he had lost that first castillo fight. I think he could have been better off for it.
same here. I think he holds on to that "0" too much. Maybe he would have challenged himself more
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In his case it helped, but for other fighters a single loss can pretty much destroy them.

Wlad's most pertinent quote;

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Old 08-10-2011, 08:00 PM
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Tell that to undefeated fighters who brag about their 0.
tell that to castillo
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Old 08-10-2011, 08:05 PM
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Imagine floyds legacy if he had lost that first castillo fight.
yeah, and imagine if roy jones jr didn't get his kicked at the olympics
imagine if lennox didn't just draw in the first holyfield fight
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