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Old 07-18-2011, 03:34 PM
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Default i think lennox could beat ali.. lennox= greatest HW ever?

i think lennox is the greatest heavyweight the world has ever seen... (yes better then the klitschkos, im a klitschko fan.. and even i know lennox is superior to both brothers)

he could of probably dominated the 70s.... he would of beat ali, foreman, etc. etc.

he just fought in the weak era, like the klits....
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Old 07-18-2011, 03:45 PM
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Lennox would give Ali trouble no doubt, but I don't think he would beat him, Ali's faster with better footwork and would probably outbox him to a decision, he would make a large target for Ali's accurate punching, Ali tended to struggle more with smaller fighters who provided less of a target and were slicksters ie Norton, Young. I also don't think he beats Foreman, you need a tough chin for that, Foreman wasn't some slow plodding fighter he had deceptive speed as mentioned in an earlier thread and could cut the ring on his opponents well. Interesting match ups though.
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Old 07-18-2011, 05:08 PM
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Lennox would give Ali trouble no doubt, but I don't think he would beat him, Ali's faster with better footwork and would probably outbox him to a decision, he would make a large target for Ali's accurate punching, Ali tended to struggle more with smaller fighters who provided less of a target and were slicksters ie Norton, Young. I also don't think he beats Foreman, you need a tough chin for that, Foreman wasn't some slow plodding fighter he had deceptive speed as mentioned in an earlier thread and could cut the ring on his opponents well. Interesting match ups though.
He'd have given Ali and any other ATG heavy about as much trouble as he gave McCall in 94 and Rahman in April of 2001.
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Old 07-18-2011, 05:10 PM
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Old 07-18-2011, 05:59 PM
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He'd have given Ali and any other ATG heavy about as much trouble as he gave McCall in 94 and Rahman in April of 2001.
Lol I laughed at your post, but come on arent you underrating Lewis a bit? those were off nights and he beat them in rematches.
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Old 07-18-2011, 06:00 PM
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Old 07-18-2011, 06:05 PM
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Lol I laughed at your post, but come on arent you underrating Lewis a bit? those were off nights and he beat them in rematches.
Lewis was a good heavyweight, but not an ATG heavyweight. I think that every name in your sig beats him and beats him handily, prime for prime, with the big punchers on the list winning by KO.

ATG's out of prime? Yeah, he can beat them. Most top contenders, yeah he could probably beat them. But as far as GREATS go, I feel that he falls short of their caliber.
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Old 07-18-2011, 06:13 PM
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He'd have given Ali and any other ATG heavy about as much trouble as he gave McCall in 94 and Rahman in April of 2001.
Using two defeats as evidence to support your argument (which you don't supply) whilst ignoring a fully-focussed Lewis' easy wins over both is not very convincing and a classic example of confirmation bias.

Anyone can stack the decks against a fighter by using examples that are not representative of his entire career. As reasoning goes it is worthless and appears suggestive of a need to deceive oneself.

I could just as easily say Pacquaio will give Floyd Mayweather about as much trouble as he gave Torrecampo or Singsurat. But who am I trying to convince - you or me?
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Old 07-18-2011, 06:17 PM
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i think lennox is the greatest heavyweight the world has ever seen... (yes better then the klitschkos, im a klitschko fan.. and even i know lennox is superior to both brothers)

he could of probably dominated the 70s.... he would of beat ali, foreman, etc. etc.

he just fought in the weak era, like the klits....
I disagree with almost everything you said except that Lewis is greater than both Klitschkos.

I don't think Lewis beats Ali and I can see a fight against Foreman going both ways. Lewis has brawled with opponents like Mercer and Vitali. If he tried this against Foreman he would not survive this. Otherwise he would for sure give Foreman a brutal boxing lesson.

And Lewis' era in HW boxing is one of the best era's in history man.
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Old 07-18-2011, 06:33 PM
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Using two defeats as evidence to support your argument (which you don't supply) whilst ignoring a fully-focussed Lewis' easy wins over both is not very convincing and a classic example of confirmation bias.

Anyone can stack the decks against a fighter by using examples that are not representative of his entire career. As reasoning goes it is worthless and appears suggestive of a need to deceive oneself.

I could just as easily say Pacquaio will give Floyd Mayweather about as much trouble as he gave Torrecampo or Singsurat. But who am I trying to convince - you or me?
I agree - Pacquiao has taken a page out of the book of Lewis and waited for opportune times to face big name opposition.

I have already heard your sorry defense of Lennox Lewis so there is no need to go over it again. The guy made a thread saying Lewis is the greatest of all time, and you comment on what I said? That's what's most shocking to me. Talk about being bias. This kid should be red K'd and flamed to death yet you come to me to defend Lennox Lewis - that to me is laughable.
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