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Old 07-15-2011, 03:10 AM
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George needs to get back in the ring and show these american kids how it is done!
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Old 07-15-2011, 03:17 AM
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Wladimir Klitschko is a great talent, a guy who had a lot to overcome after the losses to Sanders and Brewster and made it all the way back to the heavyweight championship, beating pretty much everyone that was left.

That said, Foreman is right in that, there is only room for one on top of the mountain and he shared it with his brother. If you're rating Wladimir Klitschko as a solo entity, you have to look at how he never avenged his losses to Sanders and Ross Purrity, and by the time he got Brewster again, Brewster was coming off a long layoff and an eye injury after losing to Lyakhovich.

Wladimir may have been a perfectionist who executed his craft with precision, but in his two greatest opportunities to make a name for himself - against David Haye and Sultan Ibragimov - he never pushed the issue and got people talking about him.

Juxtapose that with Lennox Lewis, who on his biggest stages against Mike Tyson, the Rahman rematch and even the second Holyfield fight, went out there to establish his dominance.



Holyfield and Rahamn sure, also his fight with Vitali was a barnburner whilst it lasted, but i don't put much stock in the Tyson fight. It's probably close to a decade removed from Tyson's prime, and at least 4 or 5 years removed from when he was still a very good HW.
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Old 07-15-2011, 03:26 AM
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George Foreman speaks the truth!!!
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Old 07-15-2011, 03:40 AM
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Holyfield and Rahamn sure, also his fight with Vitali was a barnburner whilst it lasted, but i don't put much stock in the Tyson fight. It's probably close to a decade removed from Tyson's prime, and at least 4 or 5 years removed from when he was still a very good HW.
Boxing fans, yes, they know better.

But the Tyson fight was the highest selling PPV of all-time at one point, so people who may not have felt like tuning in to see Lewis fight Rahman would have seen the Tyson fight and had that fight remain his signature win.
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Old 07-15-2011, 03:43 AM
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Wow, the K2 must have really done something to piss Big George off after he opened the door to Wladdy's dressing room prematurely prior to his ring entrance! Nah, I can see where Foreman is coming from but I think it will be just like Lewis and Holmes in the fact that both Klitschko bros will be appreciated long after they have retired.
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Old 07-15-2011, 03:48 AM
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Wladimir Klitschko is a great talent, a guy who had a lot to overcome after the losses to Sanders and Brewster and made it all the way back to the heavyweight championship, beating pretty much everyone that was left.

That said, Foreman is right in that, there is only room for one on top of the mountain and he shared it with his brother. If you're rating Wladimir Klitschko as a solo entity, you have to look at how he never avenged his losses to Sanders and Ross Purrity, and by the time he got Brewster again, Brewster was coming off a long layoff and an eye injury after losing to Lyakhovich.

Wladimir may have been a perfectionist who executed his craft with precision, but in his two greatest opportunities to make a name for himself - against David Haye and Sultan Ibragimov - he never pushed the issue and got people talking about him.

Juxtapose that with Lennox Lewis, who on his biggest stages against Mike Tyson, the Rahman rematch and even the second Holyfield fight, went out there to establish his dominance.
Not trying to nitpick here but both of Lewis' fights with Holyfield were just as boring as Wladdy's fights with Ibragimov and Haye. Many people believe that Lewis one the first and lost the second fight as well. Neither fighter really did anything in either of those 2 fights to be honest. Lewis did learn from those fights and became a destructive force after that. Wladdy has to be pushed and prodded by Steward to destroy his opponents. He doesn't have the killer instinct like his brother.
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Old 07-15-2011, 04:02 AM
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Not trying to nitpick here but both of Lewis' fights with Holyfield were just as boring as Wladdy's fights with Ibragimov and Haye. Many people believe that Lewis one the first and lost the second fight as well. Neither fighter really did anything in either of those 2 fights to be honest. Lewis did learn from those fights and became a destructive force after that. Wladdy has to be pushed and prodded by Steward to destroy his opponents. He doesn't have the killer instinct like his brother.
The first one, Lewis was pretty boring and safe, and wound up getting unfairly handed a draw. He tried to be more exciting the second time around and while it wasn't the best thing tactically for him, he did step it up and try to be brutal.
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Old 07-15-2011, 05:04 AM
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wlad should change his style. if he doesnt want to be aggressive
he has to be more like ali. dance around , show boat
and fight like a dancer style of boxer. nothing wrong with not being
aggressive, how aggressive is mayweather.

if he fought like a boxer, mover he will be more popular
the problem is he fights like a flat footed brawler but without the aggression
he should just dance about and fight like ali in future
and he will get more fans
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Old 07-15-2011, 05:30 AM
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Wladimir Klitschko is a great talent, a guy who had a lot to overcome after the losses to Sanders and Brewster and made it all the way back to the heavyweight championship, beating pretty much everyone that was left.

That said, Foreman is right in that, there is only room for one on top of the mountain and he shared it with his brother. If you're rating Wladimir Klitschko as a solo entity, you have to look at how he never avenged his losses to Sanders and Ross Purrity, and by the time he got Brewster again, Brewster was coming off a long layoff and an eye injury after losing to Lyakhovich.

Wladimir may have been a perfectionist who executed his craft with precision, but in his two greatest opportunities to make a name for himself - against David Haye and Sultan Ibragimov - he never pushed the issue and got people talking about him.

Juxtapose that with Lennox Lewis, who on his biggest stages against Mike Tyson, the Rahman rematch and even the second Holyfield fight, went out there to establish his dominance.
Great post.

That is undoubtedly a big factor in why Wlad will not leave much of a legacy behind but the other factor that has to be mentioned is the weakness of the current heavyweight division.
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Old 07-15-2011, 05:30 AM
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George is only telling how it is. Sure Wladimir Klitschko will be more respected once he retires but he wont go down in the 'great' fighter category. If only Wladimir was more exciting and let his hands go more often instead of sitting behind the jab all night. Sometimes it takes half the fight till he unleashes a single right hand.. Its hard to like Wladimir as a boxer with his boring styler, but he is a great ambassador for the sport.
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