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Old 07-12-2011, 04:32 PM
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What's the title of the thread?
Nobody cares about the title except you. Nice to see you still hiding to avoid my questions.
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Old 07-12-2011, 04:34 PM
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Wow, you're wrong about that. PEDs has been getting loads of coverage now since BALCO happened. Holyfield himself was even linked to steroids through a pharmacy in '07. Athletes achievements have never been under the microscope as closely as they are now, as they were then. Tyson asked, Holyfield agreed, issue resolved.

It doesn't mean they were any less prevalent in sports back then. What don't you get about that?
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Old 07-12-2011, 04:35 PM
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Is there American bias? Is it a racist issue with blacks fans supporting a black fighter?

It seems quite hypocritical.
no there is no hypocrisy with hopkins in refusing OST because of how it was brought up.


the day of accusing someone with no evidence, especially in an ambush type setting like pascal did, is short lived, it holds no grounds to be taken seriously..


there is a right way to get the drug testing in the sport, you push to have it in all of boxing, not just your opponent that you feel inferior to...........



hopkins is a guy that has been an open book when it comes to his career, he's been proud of his clean life stye, it's a far reach to try and accuse him of doing something shady when hopkins has been vying for attention in the boxing world.

he's old school and is disciplined, anything close to cheating would diminish his inner strength to prove people wrong, hopkins relies on himself, not substances.......... just look how he lives outside the ring.........
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Old 07-12-2011, 04:41 PM
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Great, I already understand this and have tried explaining this to JAB. The title of this thread is wrong because Hopkins has never refused OST. Clowns on here bring up Pascal, but the fact remains that Pascal already signed a contract that didn't involve any extra testing, so, those posters can deal with it. Therefore, Hopkins has never lied about agreeing to testing, although he's been in full support of testing on the issue.

Cool, links for Ward refusing extra testing during negotiations. That's what I'm more interested in considering the fact that aside Mayweather, Ward's been the most vocal about testing amongst his peers.


Hopkin's has refused to do OST for his integrity. Whether or not it was contracted or not. No one said you have to do tests to prove your innocent through contractual agreement only.

If you want to prove you're clean, then you can do the tests at any time.

Pacquiao has refused the random tests until recently. If the logic of not Having the tests in the contract initially is an excuse, then it can be said the same for anybody who refuses tests at any stage, even before a fight.

If you refuse a test, you refuse a test.
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Old 07-12-2011, 04:46 PM
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no there is no hypocrisy with hopkins in refusing OST because of how it was brought up.


the day of accusing someone with no evidence, especially in an ambush type setting like pascal did, is short lived, it holds no grounds to be taken seriously..


there is a right way to get the drug testing in the sport, you push to have it in all of boxing, not just your opponent that you feel inferior to...........



hopkins is a guy that has been an open book when it comes to his career, he's been proud of his clean life stye, it's a far reach to try and accuse him of doing something shady when hopkins has been vying for attention in the boxing world.

he's old school and is disciplined, anything close to cheating would diminish his inner strength to prove people wrong, hopkins relies on himself, not substances.......... just look how he lives outside the ring.........
That doesn't mean anything to me. Anyone can be old school, have pride, be religious or whatever, but without a random test, they could be using some form of drugs.

No one can say otherwise.

I find it very strange how people are using his clean life style and old school mentality.

PAC is a healthy guy who stays at 150 and is religious. He has pride to not cheat. However he has been flames much more than Hopkin's whom is achieving something amazing.


Refusing a contractual test or not, it is refusing a test.
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