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Old 07-10-2011, 01:27 AM #21
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Old 07-10-2011, 01:27 AM #22
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Williams problems are mistakes that can easily be corrected.....and I mean easily corrected.

Paul just can't see what he is doing wrong (it happens to a lot of fighters) and it's the trainers job to point out those mistakes.

Most people think it has to be something radical like fighting on the outside and pumping his jab, but its subtle things such as his hand placement coming inside or leaning in while trying to throw hooks are a few of the things that has him constantly getting hit by those same punches.
good post. i didnt see a shot fighter in there. he could pull the trigger. thing is he was totally lost. wtf is wrong with his trainer.
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Old 07-10-2011, 01:27 AM #23
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williams not shot his style has been exposed and his dumbass wont do everything to help change it

martinez is going to ko him again
yeah, and that's really the point I was trying to make.

There have been a ton of elite fighters who's trainers had to make adjustments in their style in order to not continue to suffer losses.

Manny Pacquiao, Lennox Lewis, Marco Antonio Barrera, Wladimir Klitschko, Juan Manuel Marquez, and the list goes on and on. All of those guys had trainers step in and help them make the proper adjustments to allow them to compete at the elite level.

For Mr. Peterson to have the mentality, "well he has fought this way all the way to this point, why change now"....is ****ing pathetic and disgusting.
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Old 07-10-2011, 01:30 AM #24
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He is man. He's lil JT.

There is a difference between lost/confused vs shot to sh1t.

No offense, but Jermaine chin went to sh1t and from that point it was a wrap. Williams chin looked pretty solid in there to me, and I just saw a guy who didn't know what to do different to change what was happening in the ring. That falls 100% on the trainer.
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Old 07-10-2011, 01:30 AM #25
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his like Cotto all the tools are still their but he is damaged for good from the 1st Martinez fight IMO
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Old 07-10-2011, 01:38 AM #27
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Williams needs a new trainer if he still wants to fight.
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Old 07-10-2011, 01:38 AM #28
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There is a difference between lost/confused vs shot to sh1t.

No offense, but Jermaine chin went to sh1t and from that point it was a wrap. Williams chin looked pretty solid in there to me, and I just saw a guy who didn't know what to do different to change what was happening in the ring. That falls 100% on the trainer.
Of course I'm overreacting and I don't think that he is totally shot. I but think he's done on the elite level against guys that can really crack at 54 or higher. No way he survives against a bigger puncher. And, I blame him AND his trainer. They flat out said they weren't going to change ANYTHING and it showed, and he lost, clearly. Sucks for that kid Lara. And I feel the same way about Lucas and Kotelnik when they "lost" to Devon.
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Pwill has NEVER been an elite fighter...
This. He doesn't know how to slip, block, or roll with a punch and to make things worse fights with his hands at his waist with his chin out. He has no sense of range or timing and terrible balance. He was getting out jabbed by Lara who looked like an infant next to him.

Williams has heart and freakish height, reach, and conditioning but is and always has been a garbage fighter. Quintana, Martinez, and Lara have all beat him the exact same way and Paul and his trainer are simply to unintelligent to even know why this is, they almost seem proud of the fact that he fights the exact same way and is not only uncapable but unwilling to attempt making any.

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Are you ****ing serious? He might not be in his primeaa anymore but if you want to come in here and act like he didnt fight his off then **** that bro. Straight up thats ho shyt.
Naw man williams is weak
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