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Old 07-02-2011, 11:22 PM
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The most skilled heavyweight Wladimir fought recently was Eddie Chambers, and I rewatched that fight. Chambers looked helpless, there was absolutely nothing Chambers could have done to win that fight. Eddie had the skills to beat Wladimir but not the size. It was like watching a welterweight fight a super-middleweight, the size disparity was too huge.

Haye on the other hand is 6'3, he had the size to beat Wladimir, but not the skills. He hasn't honed his craft yet.

Will there be a heavyweight who's skilled as Chambers but with Haye's size? If Wladimir fought a prime Holyfield, I think Holyfield would have won.

I bet Wlad's Mom can single-handedly beat up Wladimir, even without any punches returned.
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Old 07-02-2011, 11:24 PM
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Helenius KO Peter with a left hook and he is 6'6 and a great body puncher too. Even Volodymyr didn't knock Peter out cold like Helenius did.



In the WBO Adamek is #1 and Helenius #2 but i think Adamek will not be 1 after he fights Vitali so Helenius could maybe be mandatory.


Damn, Helenius is one tough Ugro-Finn!
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Old 07-02-2011, 11:25 PM
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No one can beat Wladimir.

Maybe 2 or 3 years from now, someone like Boytsov, Glazkov, or Helenius.

But right now? No one.

Wlad is unbeatable as heavyweight.
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Old 07-02-2011, 11:26 PM
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The most skilled heavyweight Wladimir fought recently was Eddie Chambers, and I rewatched that fight. Chambers looked helpless, there was absolutely nothing Chambers could have done to win that fight. Eddie had the skills to beat Wladimir but not the size. It was like watching a welterweight fight a super-middleweight, the size disparity was too huge.

Haye on the other hand is 6'3, he had the size to beat Wladimir, but not the skills. He hasn't honed his craft yet.

Will there be a heavyweight who's skilled as Chambers but with Haye's size? If Wladimir fought a prime Holyfield, I think Holyfield would have won.


Pacroids no doubt can beat Klitscho.I`m sure Klitscho would agree to meet at a catchweight where Klit will be a highly skilled zombie in which Pacroids will handle easily.He`ll even offer klitscho free shots like he did in the Cotto fight.
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Old 07-02-2011, 11:29 PM
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I think Helenius has the best chance in about a year. I'd like to see him get in one more fight against a top 10 HW first.

Arreola has a puncher's chance, I guess.

If Solis ever gets in shape and if his knee heals(big IF's). I'd give him a good chance. His high guard defense is perfect for blocking the jab that Wladimir loves to throw. He also has the handspeed and power to land something big.
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Old 07-02-2011, 11:30 PM
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Old 07-02-2011, 11:37 PM
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I think Helenius has the best chance in about a year. I'd like to see him get in one more fight against a top 10 HW first.

Arreola has a puncher's chance, I guess.

If Solis ever gets in shape and if his knee heals(big IF's). I'd give him a good chance. His high guard defense is perfect for blocking the jab that Wladimir loves to throw. He also has the handspeed and power to land something big.
plus Povetkin & Boytsov then Pulev and Glazkov in 1 1/2 - 2 years. There's quite a few good challenges out there for him. The *****ty thing is if he has to fight Chagaev or Chambers again due to mandatories.
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Old 07-02-2011, 11:40 PM
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HBO should make arreola - solis
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Old 07-02-2011, 11:46 PM
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plus Povetkin & Boytsov then Pulev and Glazkov in 1 1/2 - 2 years. There's quite a few good challenges out there for him. The *****ty thing is if he has to fight Chagaev or Chambers again due to mandatories.
I hope Povetkin gets rid of Teddy Atlas. He's ruining him, IMO. I think before Atlas got to him he had the best chance to beat either of the Klit brothers, but I don't know if he can with Atlas as his trainer.
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Old 07-03-2011, 12:18 AM
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arreola doesnt have the style to beat wlad, leads with his head and eats lots of jabs, heavy/slow footwork

only guys whove beaten or knocked down wlad are guys who can really move their mass into range in a flashand throw 3+ punches in one fluid movement under his vision like sanders and peter

if povetkin got some divine burst of confidence he could slip inside and rough wlad up, he has the power, but he has the flaw of punching then looking to see if he hurt his opponent rather than flurrying, which means wlad could just step out and punish him every time, another bad style to beat wlad with

i havent seen a ton of helenius but you cant count on wlad to do anything like peters doing there, polar opposites if there ever were any

boystov is interesting, fast hands from what ive seen
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