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Old 06-15-2011, 11:59 PM
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How can you define heart and how can determine when someone truly actually had it? Which fighter(s) has the most heart out of them all? How can you measure heart?

I cannot begin this thread as I do not have in me to try and decide who has more heart than anyone else.

Good luck gentlemen.
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Old 06-16-2011, 12:28 AM
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How can you define heart and how can determine when someone truly actually had it? Which fighter(s) has the most heart out of them all? How can you measure heart?

I cannot begin this thread as I do not have in me to try and decide who has more heart than anyone else.

Good luck gentlemen.
Harry Greb or Sam Langford. Both were undersized and partially blind for parts of their respective careers and taking on the best fighters of ANY color.

Joe Gans and Jack Johnson. Both were breaking down and crossing the color line to question white superiority at a time when blacks were still being lynched for looking at white women

I think any of these 4 are suitable choices.
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Old 06-16-2011, 12:35 AM
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Harry Greb or Sam Langford. Both were undersized and partially blind for parts of their respective careers and taking on the best fighters of ANY color.

Joe Gans and Jack Johnson. Both were breaking down and crossing the color line to question white superiority at a time when blacks were still being lynched for looking at white women

I think any of these 4 are suitable choices.
All those are good examples.

I'll add Ali staying in there with Norton w/ a broken jaw, Holmes finishing the fight w/ Norton with a torn bicep muscle and Joe Frazier getting up 6 times during his 1st fight with Foreman.
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Old 06-16-2011, 03:55 AM
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How can you define heart and how can determine when someone truly actually had it? Which fighter(s) has the most heart out of them all? How can you measure heart?

I cannot begin this thread as I do not have in me to try and decide who has more heart than anyone else.

Good luck gentlemen.
No heart
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Old 06-16-2011, 09:54 AM
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No heart
There are so many great fighters that I don't want to dishonor all the greats when trying to puck one.

I would probably go with Langford and Greb who literally were underdogs. Blind ones at that.
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Old 06-16-2011, 05:14 PM
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JM Marquez comes to mind. Getting knocked down 3 times and getting his beak busted(in the 1st round) against Pac, and then fighting on at least even terms for the rest of the bout. That knock down against Katsidis looked to me like the kind of shot 95% don't get up from. He got up and scored his own stoppage. True heart in my book.
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JM Marquez comes to mind. Getting knocked down 3 times and getting his beak busted(in the 1st round) against Pac, and then fighting on at least even terms for the rest of the bout. That knock down against Katsidis looked to me like the kind of shot 95% don't get up from. He got up and scored his own stoppage. True heart in my book.
Exactly who came to mind. I'm not saying he has the biggest heart of all time but one of the best today, never staying down after knockdowns, always gets up and whoops that ass.

Heart to me is the ability to get back up after getting knocked down, the ability to take somebodys best shots and keep coming after em, and fighting everybody, no ducks.

I'd like to throw Muhammad Ali out there as well, fought EVERYBODY in arguably the greatest era of heavyweights EVER. Fought his biggest challenges(Frazier & Norton) 3 times and even though he had nothing more to prove in the sport took on Larry Holmes in a courageous effort.Kinda had ****y heart too, just standing in front of against the ropes probably the hardest hitter ever in Foreman.
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