How Great A Win Is John Ruiz For Roy Jones Jr?

Perfect Plex

How much of a great win is this for Roy Jones? Whats yout take on it?

JAB5239

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Originally Posted by Boxing Slam

How much of a great win is this for Roy Jones? Whats yout take on it?

Decent, but thats it. He beat a heavyweight contender who held a paper title.

poet682006

It's meaningless. A hum drum win over a fighter EVERYONE knew was by far the weakest of the Alphabeltholders.

Poet

BattlingNelson

Probably his second best win after Toney. Beating a top HW was a very good win even though Ruiz, as poet pointed out, was the weakest beltholder he could challenge.

nomadman

It was a pretty good win and Jones stepped up and made it look easy (which is difficult to do against Ruiz, whatever you may think of him as a fighter). I would rate the Toney and Hopkins wins above it, though.

Perfect Plex

Ruiz Ranking When Jones Beat Him
#5

Ruiz's Pre Wins Before Jones Fight
-Julius Francis
-Jimmy Thunder
-Tony Tucker
-Evander Holyfield
-Kirk Johnson (32-0)

Ruiz's Post Wins After Jones Fight
-Hasim Rahman
-Fres Oquendo
-Andrew Golota
-Jameel McCline

young_robbed

It's okay, but only "okay" because Jones was moving up.

bojangles1987

It's impressive that he did so as easily as he did. Ruiz ended up being one of the better heavyweights post Lewis.

Just like Hopkins beating Pascal though, it was the accomplishment more than the opponent.

fitefanSHO

Ruiz was a handpicked nobody, beating him did not make Jones a real Heavyweight CHAMPION.

Steak

I wouldnt necessarily call it great at all.

but, lets be fair, it was a quality win. people **** on Ruiz, but the fact of the matter is that he was a top heavyweight for a solid 10 or so years, from the first Holyfield fight till Haye took him out not too long ago. granted, the division has been pretty terrible, but still.

Ruiz was very very clearly not the true HW champ, so you may as well throw that silly 'Roy Jones became HW champ' stat out the window. but, Ruiz was legitimately one of the best guys in the division, and when you combine Roy moving up in weight its a very solid win.

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poet682006 All-Time Great Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tacoma, Washington USA Age: 45 Posts: 16,295 Rep Power: 50 Points: 1,936.42 Bank: 611,506,346,024.94 Total Points: 611,506,347,961.36 Donate	It's meaningless. A hum drum win over a fighter EVERYONE knew was by far the weakest of the Alphabeltholders. Poet

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nomadman Eurasian gonna get you Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: the chilly plains of kazakhstan Posts: 4,348 Rep Power: 13 Points: 10,958,786.91 Bank: 4,343,720,645.64 Total Points: 4,354,679,432.55 Donate	It was a pretty good win and Jones stepped up and made it look easy (which is difficult to do against Ruiz, whatever you may think of him as a fighter). I would rate the Toney and Hopkins wins above it, though.

young_robbed Interim Champion Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 784 Rep Power: 4 Points: 106,236,267.54 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 106,236,267.54 Donate	It's okay, but only "okay" because Jones was moving up.

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