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Old 06-07-2011, 03:52 PM #21
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why would it be? Floyd is so inactive he isnt even a ranked WW.
Because the only way you lose your Lineage is by retiring and although inactive Mayweather never offically retired after May 1st 2010.
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Old 06-07-2011, 03:53 PM #22
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Floyd beat Tata and then again Mosley.

Floyd is undefeated. you do the math
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Old 06-07-2011, 03:54 PM #23
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floyd is the lineal ww champ..so yes it will be
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lineal..and ring champs are 2 differant things

floyds already the lineal champ......but the winner of this fight has to fight manny for the ring belt
Absolutely right,

Larry /this thread with the first 2 post.
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Only if you consider Mayweather never having lost the lineage since beating Baldomir for it.

Shane Mosley was not lineal champion when Floyd beat him
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Old 06-07-2011, 03:59 PM #25
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IMO, there will be no lineal championship until Pac/May face off, or, one of them loses but that's just me, I hold the lineal in high regard and I hate it when people butcher it's prestige with "retiring" or fighting inferior defenses (* Foreman in the 90's).

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Old 06-07-2011, 04:11 PM #26
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Hell no can't happen until Mayweather and Pacquiao fight.

Cmon bro dumb question.
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Old 06-07-2011, 04:15 PM #27
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Mayweather vacated the lineal title when he retired. He is not the lineal champ. You can not be champ if you declare retirement and actually take a year or two off.
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Old 06-07-2011, 04:30 PM #28
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Mayweather vacated the lineal title when he retired. He is not the lineal champ. You can not be champ if you declare retirement and actually take a year or two off.
do you think mosley was the lineal champ before floyd fought him?
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Floyd Mayweather vacated it when he retired after the Hatton fight, then Cotto won it after a series of victories at Welterweight, then Antonio Margarito won it when he defeated Cotto, Shane Mosley became lineal champion after he beat Margarito, and Floyd won it back after he defeated Mosley last May and since he never retired he still has it. So yes, it is for the Lineal Championship. You don't lose a lineal championship because someone moves up in weight (like Manny did) and becomes a sensation, Lineal championships don't work that way.

Look at the heavyweight division, Wladimir is considered the Lineal champion even though his brother came back from retirement and David Haye moved up in weight. A Lineal champion is the man who beat the man who beat the man which Floyd did at Welterweight.

Now like others have said the Ring Magazine belt is a different story.
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Old 06-07-2011, 04:43 PM #30
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to most rankings,(ring, espn, etc) Mayweather was dropped from them because of inactivity so unless he beats ortiz, he shouldnt be in the rankings at all if we go by their thinking........so #2 vs unranked doesnt = #1
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