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Old 06-02-2011, 12:54 PM #31
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144 is not comfortable for jmm?......so it's only comfotarble to jmm if he cuts weight first and then rehydrate to 145?....
no. why do you think he fights at 135?
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Old 06-02-2011, 12:57 PM #32
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What's going to make you understand that fight night weight is not an issue with these two. The weight isn't an issue per se. It's a matter of being in a confort zone. Marquez has openly stated that he wasn't confortable at 142, and we all know how Pacquiao performs at that weight. It's an advantage they're using to keep Marquez out of his confortable weight because this fight could have easily been at 140 and even 135.
Also, tell me how Pacquiao would be weak at 135? He doesnt cut weight to fight at 147 and a week before his fights at 147 he's well under 145.

Boxers rehydrate differently, look at Rios, Katsidis and even Ortiz. Just because they rehydrate to 154+ pounds, it doesn't mean they're going to compete at that weight class.
how is jmm not comfortable at 142 when he is very comfortable at 145?....do you mean to say in order for jmm to be comfortable, he NEEDS to cut weight to 135 then bulked yp to 145 at fight night?.....you mean to say, jmm wont be comforatble if he does'nt have to cut weight ?......lol
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Old 06-02-2011, 01:03 PM #33
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no. why do you think he fights at 135?
so jmm was'nt comfy when he fought katsidis?...weighing 145?....lol....because, he does'nt do well vs way bigger guys like pac can....

now, vs pac, he wont have that kind of disadantage becuase pac is similar in size to him.....
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Old 06-02-2011, 01:03 PM #34
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lw, jww and ww......and what would be pacs?....( fight night weight please)

here's what i think:

at 135
jmm - 145 pac- 148

at 140
jmm- 145 .. pac- 148

at 144
jmm- 147 pac- 149

so how is their fight on november not a fair fight?......discuss!
fight should be taking place at 140 IB not 147 IB since that weight division is a big jump for JMM from 135 ib but never the less should be a good and entertaining fight to watch and if pac wins then fight sergio martinez at 160 IBs
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Old 06-02-2011, 01:06 PM #35
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so jmm was'nt comfy when he fought katsidis?...weighing 145?....lol....because, he does'nt do well vs way bigger guys like pac can....

now, vs pac, he wont have that kind of disadantage becuase pac is similar in size to him.....
wasnt the katsidis fight at 135!!!!!
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how is jmm not comfortable at 142 when he is very comfortable at 145?....do you mean to say in order for jmm to be comfortable, he NEEDS to cut weight to 135 then bulked yp to 145 at fight night?.....you mean to say, jmm wont be comforatble if he does'nt have to cut weight ?......lol
Dude you clearly do not understand how fighters lose their weight so it's a bit pointless for me to try to debate this with you. Do your homework.
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so? this weight is only an advantage to pacquaio at the end of the day. if you ask marquez what weight he wants the fight at id bet he would say 135. emmanuel steward said the last time they fought that he felt that pacquiao was about 7lbs of natural body mass bigger than marquez. i think id agree with that.
Jmm doesn't have to cut weight either, that by definition is and advantage. Cutting weight isn't good for u. The only reason jmm wants the fight at 135 is because he wants pac to cut weight and weaken hisself. If pac isn't somewhat "drained" most people don't think jmm stands much of a chance.
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Lets get this strait, @144 the only reason it can be seen as an advantage to Pac, is because he doesn't have to cut weight (technically, JMM has that same advantage). JMM does not have to weigh in at that weight and can weigh in at 135-142 and maintain his speed if he does it right. VS Mayweather, he tried to bulk up which was a huge mistake because he just ended up being pudgy and slow.
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Jmm doesn't have to cut weight either, that by definition is and advantage. Cutting weight isn't good for u. The only reason jmm wants the fight at 135 is because he wants pac to cut weight and weaken hisself. If pac isn't somewhat "drained" most people don't think jmm stands much of a chance.


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he has to put weight on not cut it. well he doesnt have to, he could weigh in at 135 still if he wants but then hes giving away a max of 9lbs before rehydration.
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wasnt the katsidis fight at 135!!!!!
yes...was'nt jmm 145 at fight night?....

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Dude you clearly do not understand how fighters lose their weight so it's a bit pointless for me to try to debate this with you. Do your homework.
trust me...i know more about the sport than you do.....if you cant make any argument, get the **** on out of here....
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