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Old 05-31-2011, 08:43 PM
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The youngest and the oldest champions in history. Wilfred Benitez at 17 and Hopkins at 46. Which do you find to be more impressive and why?
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For that one fight, do you mean?

I admit freely Benitez was long one of my favourites during his time, but I can't see why he wouldn't be favoured, here. Due respect to Hopkins, but beating someone like Cervantes, over fifteen rounds, at age seventeen tops defeating Pascal when you're forty-six.

Each fine achievements, doubtless.
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The youngest and the oldest champions in history. Wilfred Benitez at 17 and Hopkins at 46. Which do you find to be more impressive and why?
when i was 17, id probably say being the youngest champion was most impressive


but every day i get closer to 46 (and i've got a ways to go thank the lord,) i grow to appreciate more what hopkins does


being even a relevant journeyman boxer who can go rounds at 46 is remarkable
nevermind win world titles against young prime fighters


any old man will tell you
hopkins
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Benitez.

Beating Cervantes at 17 years of age?

Incredible.
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For that one fight, do you mean?

I admit freely Benitez was long one of my favourites during his time, but I can't see why he wouldn't be favoured, here. Due respect to Hopkins, but beating someone like Cervantes, over fifteen rounds, at age seventeen tops defeating Pascal when you're forty-six.

Each fine achievements, doubtless.



lol no love for an old dog like hopkins?



i'm gonna be glad if everything's still working when i'm 46
and i'm no pro boxer lol i talk on the phone and drive on the highway for a living


putting yourself in that position after all those fights and all those years is the greater accomplishment in my eyes, even if the fight itself is less impressive.

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when i was 17, id probably say being the youngest champion was most impressive


but every day i get closer to 46 (and i've got a ways to go thank the lord,) i grow to appreciate more what hopkins does


being even a relevant journey boxer who can go rounds at 46 is remarkable
nevermind win world titles against young prime fighters


any old man will tell you
hopkins
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Sadly enough, my forties are in my rear-view mirror, & growing ever-distant.

Even so, I just cannot fathom another 17-year-old in all of Boxing history besting Cervantes. It's got to be the better choice.
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Sadly enough, my forties are in my rear-view mirror, & growing ever-distant.

Even so, I just cannot fathom another 17-year-old in all of Boxing history besting Cervantes. It's got to be the better choice.
I'm definitely with WBY on this onel.
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Sadly enough, my forties are in my rear-view mirror, & growing ever-distant.

Even so, I just cannot fathom another 17-year-old in all of Boxing history besting Cervantes. It's got to be the better choice.



agreed on the win 100%
benitez had to go through a hall of famer at 17
hopkins fought....pascal...

pascal's a blown up MW without much going for him. he had hard fights with diacanu. he's got knockout power and a solid chin and otherwise he was a horrible world champion.
we can probably credit his huge canadian following for him being able to make so much noise




there are, however, more young champions than very old ones
boxing is a young mans game. once you hit your prime (i'm talking about physically only for this one point,) being younger and having less milage is an advantage.
if a kid comes up in the right fighting tradition, and he matures quickly, he can make noise early
it's more rare for a fighter to remain at the top past not only his 35th and 40th birthdays, but in hopkins case his 45th
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The youngest and the oldest champions in history. Wilfred Benitez at 17 and Hopkins at 46. Which do you find to be more impressive and why?
I beg to differ...B-hop winning the Light Heavyweight title at age 46 is way more impressive!
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I have great respect and admiration for all that Hopkins has done but beating an ATG like Cervantes at 17 carries more clout than beating a second tier lightheavy like Pascal.
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