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Old 05-30-2011, 06:54 AM
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Default How the current P4P weighs up - Opponent wise.

This is a measure of how many wins the top pound for pound fighters (based on Boxing Scene's rankings) last three opponents have racked up (combined) over the past 2 and a half years.

Interesting to say the least...

Manny Pacquaio - 2.

Nonito Donaire - 14.

Sergio Martinez - 7.

Floyd Mayweather Jr - 4.

Juan Manuel Marquez - 7.

Bernard Hopkins - 10.

Timothy Bradley - 10.

Wladimir Klitchsko - 10.

Pongsaklek Wonjongkam - 1.

Anselmo Moreno - 7.

Numbers don't lie....
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Old 05-30-2011, 07:33 AM
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Very interesting indeed.
I've been very critical of Floyd for quite some time due to his unwillingness to challenge himself.
Pacquiao definitely needs a kick up the ass too.
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Old 05-30-2011, 07:58 AM
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i dont get it.....please explain further.....how did you come up with those numbers?
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Old 05-30-2011, 08:52 AM
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It seems that some people are realizing what's going on.I get a lot less flak than I used to about my stance concerning top fighters nowadays.
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Old 05-30-2011, 08:55 AM
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This is a measure of how many wins the top pound for pound fighters (based on Boxing Scene's rankings) last three opponents have racked up (combined) over the past 2 and a half years.

Interesting to say the least...

Manny Pacquaio - 2.

Nonito Donaire - 14.

Sergio Martinez - 7.

Floyd Mayweather Jr - 4.

Juan Manuel Marquez - 7.

Bernard Hopkins - 10.

Timothy Bradley - 10.

Wladimir Klitchsko - 10.

Pongsaklek Wonjongkam - 1.

Anselmo Moreno - 7.

Numbers don't lie....
P4P is overplayed. It has no official bearing on what fights get made. FWIW, Pac isn't going to lose his spot until he gets defeated, since that's what I take it you're getting at.
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Old 05-30-2011, 09:11 AM
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ehhh..... clottey hasn't fought since the pac fight and his fight before pac was a disputable loss to a top #1-2 147 fighter at the time.

margarito also hasn't fought since his pac fight and he had a suspension before that.

the only one that really was bad was mosley because mosley was coming off a loss and a draw.
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Old 05-30-2011, 09:25 AM
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This is a measure of how many wins the top pound for pound fighters (based on Boxing Scene's rankings) last three opponents have racked up (combined) over the past 2 and a half years.

Interesting to say the least...

Manny Pacquaio - 2.

Nonito Donaire - 14.

Sergio Martinez - 7.

Floyd Mayweather Jr - 4.

Juan Manuel Marquez - 7.

Bernard Hopkins - 10.

Timothy Bradley - 10.

Wladimir Klitchsko - 10.

Pongsaklek Wonjongkam - 1.

Anselmo Moreno - 7.

Numbers don't lie....
i guess the p4p should look like this then:

1.nonito
2.wlad
3.timmy
4.bhop
5.sergio
6.jmm
7.moreno
8.floyd
9.pac
10. wonjongkam

lol....
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Old 05-30-2011, 09:36 AM
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Just goes to show that to climb the p4p rankings u have to pay your dues. 10 years ago, Pacquiao's numbers would have looked like Donaires fighting undefeateds like Lucero and Solis. When you get to the top, you weigh the risk and rewards and only fight Big names. No surprise here!
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Old 05-30-2011, 09:47 AM
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You cant just look at statistics...you have to look into the opposition also....

e.g. Shane faught: Cotto, Mayorga, Margarito, Mayweather, Mora and then pac....

Obviously once you get to the top and you aint a chicken sh1t...you take on the best....

Pac could easily fight the Ortiz, Khan's, Bradley, Alexanders

And they could have a combined amount of 15 wins over last 2 years n a half

But would that really make him the best P4P fighter?

No...exactly
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