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Old 05-15-2011, 07:52 PM #1
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Default Why wouldn't Hagler fight McCallum?

It's a great stain on his record, Marvelous Marvin's. I saw an interview with Mike where he said that Marvin told him he respected him, but he said he wouldn't fight him. Mike confronted him with that and said that if he really respected him, he'd give him a chance. I still don't get it, I know Mike was considered a high risk low reward boxer back then, but still he was doing his stuff, kicking everybody's arse and wouldn't be another feather in Hagler's hat if he beat him? Not saying he would, but.

I think its one of the great losses of boxing, that neither Leonard, Duran, Hearns or Hagler wanted to fight McCallum.
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i dont believe hagler ducked him cause mccallum didnt move up to 160 till after hagler retired, but hearns and duran definately without a doubt ducked him in my opinion
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i dont believe hagler ducked him cause mccallum didnt move up to 160 till after hagler retired, but hearns and duran definately without a doubt ducked him in my opinion
Doesnt matter, Mike was fighting at 160 and even above in between his 154 fights. He coulda made 160 without a sweat.
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McCallum = tough opponent who brings in no money. Fighters like him have been avoided forever.
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At this stage Hagler wanted big money fights.
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LOL this again..

Try Hagler was retired before McCallum was a name fighter. Hagler fought his last fight while McCallum was still strugling with the likes of Milton McCrory at junior middleweight.
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LOL this again..

Try Hagler was retired before McCallum was a name fighter. Hagler fought his last fight while McCallum was still strugling with the likes of Milton McCrory at junior middleweight.
Stop hugging Hagler and dissing McCallum! Mike had beaten boxers like Minchillo, who went the distance with Hearns and Duran, Mike stopped him in the 13th, he also stopped Jackson in 2 while Hagler was still champion! Don't try to give me bs reasons. I heard it from Mike's own mouth, Hagler told him he wouldn't fight him.

And he didn't STRUGGLE with McCrory. McCrory was an elite or semi-elite fighter who held the WBC ww belt and defended it four times before running into Curry. Mike stopped McCrory. And to this guy saying he wasn't a name-and Scypion, Hamsho, Sibson were?! Mugabi was also much less known than Mike and hadn't it been for his knockout streak he'd never get a shot against Hagler.

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Stop hugging Hagler and dissing McCallum! Mike had beaten boxers like Minchillo, who went the distance with Hearns and Duran, Mike stopped him in the 13th, he also stopped Jackson in 2 while Hagler was still champion! Don't try to give me bs reasons. I heard it from Mike's own mouth, Hagler told him he wouldn't fight him.

And he didn't STRUGGLE with McCrory. McCrory was an elite or semi-elite fighter who held the WBC ww belt and defended it four times before running into Curry. Mike stopped McCrory. And to this guy saying he wasn't a name-and Scypion, Hamsho, Sibson were?! Mugabi was also much less known than Mike and hadn't it been for his knockout streak he'd never get a shot against Hagler.
Of course he struggled with McCrory, how old were you when they fought?

I ask this because not only do I have the fight on dvd but I was ringside for the fight card. And if you talk to Mike ask him what he thought of the bacon wraped shrimp they served at the post fight party. I remember because I sat at the same table with him.
And you might say I am hugging Hagler, you also could say I was hugging Sugar Ray Robinson in your poll in the fantasy section, you know the one where you said McCallum could beat Sugar Ray. Who's hugging?
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Hagler never fought McCallum because at no point did the fight make any sense whatsoever. McCallum was an obscure junior middlweight who did not make his move to middlweight until Hagler had lost to Leonard and was more or less retired. Hagler wanted BIG $$ fights (fights he felt he could win) at the end of his career, not difficult fights against relatively unknown junior middleweights. Think risk vs. reward.

No disrespect to McCallum, it just made no sense to Hagler at that time.

That's hardly a "great stain" on Hagler's career.
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Hagler never fought McCallum because at no point did the fight make any sense whatsoever. McCallum was an obscure junior middlweight who did not make his move to middlweight until Hagler had lost to Leonard and was more or less retired. Hagler wanted BIG $$ fights (fights he felt he could win) at the end of his career, not difficult fights against relatively unknown junior middleweights. Think risk vs. reward.

No disrespect to McCallum, it just made no sense to Hagler at that time.

That's hardly a "great stain" on Hagler's career.
He was an undefeated jmw CHAMPION, you dud. Hagler wanted to fight Curry, but not the man who knocked his lights out? Thats peculiar, isnt it?! If you want, I'll give you the video link where Mike talks about this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abmZo...eature=related

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