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Old 05-09-2011, 01:55 AM
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by David P. Greisman

Thirty-six minutes segmented over 12 rounds is not a guarantee, not when a fight can end in the blink of an eye and the flash of a fist.

The bout between Manny Pacquiao and Shane Mosley was scheduled for 12 rounds, and that is exactly how long it lasted. The fight, however, was essentially over by the third round. The outcome was decided even earlier.

“Everyone has a plan until they’ve been hit.” A variation of that quote has been attributed to Mike Tyson, though it predates him by generations of heavyweight champions, dating back, at the very least, to Joe Louis.

The quote has been axiomatic of Manny Pacquiao’s fights since the days when all Pacquiao had was one hand and one gear, relying on blazing speed and blasting power in a left hand that left few standing. Whether his foes planned for that left hand didn’t matter; he would still pummel them with it. Knowing what had hit them did not lessen the consequences.

Preparing for Pacquiao has required much more strategizing in these past few years, a run that has completed his growth beyond a one-dimensional but overpowering force and into a multifaceted and overwhelming fury.

No amount of planning, though, could prevent David Diaz, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton and Miguel Cotto from losing before those scheduled 12 rounds could be completed. No strategy could save Joshua Clottey and Antonio Margarito from being dominated and defeated throughout the duration of that 36-minute distance. [Click Here To Read More]
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Old 05-09-2011, 04:42 AM
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Good article, as always.

Yeah, "Sometimes when we touch" is one of my favorite songs, a masterpiece especially when sung by Rod Stewart. I'm sorta happy that Mosley last night wasn't into "I wanna hold you till the fear in me subsides" mode.
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:22 AM
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Thanks, man. But did you really just describe "Sometimes When We Touch" as a masterpiece? Suddenly I don't feel as good about your kind words about the column. =)
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Old 05-09-2011, 07:46 PM
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I didn't see an intimidated Mosley. I saw the businessman Mosley. I saw the Mosley who fought Mayweather from round 3 - 12. I saw the Mosley who successfully lured the two biggest cash cows in boxing and I honestly believe he knew he didn't have the tools to defeat either, but rather the skills to avoid being hurt while getting paid.
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Old 05-09-2011, 09:03 PM
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C mon man we all know this was a bullsh*t fight!! Bob Arum must a gave mosley some extra cash for not trying to hurt his cash cow pacquiao! That 3rd knockdown was bullsh*t! He didn't even get hit that hard! What was Mosley whispering in mannys ear, Oh is this how we should make the fight go,
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Old 05-10-2011, 12:36 AM
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by David P. Greisman

Thirty-six minutes segmented over 12 rounds is not a guarantee, not when a fight can end in the blink of an eye and the flash of a fist.

The bout between Manny Pacquiao and Shane Mosley was scheduled for 12 rounds, and that is exactly how long it lasted. The fight, however, was essentially over by the third round. The outcome was decided even earlier.

“Everyone has a plan until they’ve been hit.” A variation of that quote has been attributed to Mike Tyson, though it predates him by generations of heavyweight champions, dating back, at the very least, to Joe Louis.

The quote has been axiomatic of Manny Pacquiao’s fights since the days when all Pacquiao had was one hand and one gear, relying on blazing speed and blasting power in a left hand that left few standing. Whether his foes planned for that left hand didn’t matter; he would still pummel them with it. Knowing what had hit them did not lessen the consequences.

Preparing for Pacquiao has required much more strategizing in these past few years, a run that has completed his growth beyond a one-dimensional but overpowering force and into a multifaceted and overwhelming fury.

No amount of planning, though, could prevent David Diaz, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton and Miguel Cotto from losing before those scheduled 12 rounds could be completed. No strategy could save Joshua Clottey and Antonio Margarito from being dominated and defeated throughout the duration of that 36-minute distance. [Click Here To Read More]
it was "as predicted garbage" not intimidation preceding domination" mosley has beaten dozens of pacyows, ,he simply another washed up faded name / bum in the long list of washed up bums arum keeps lineing up for this clown. and apparntly nobody on that team has learned a fokin thing, the next possible opponents are, judah,bradley or 38 yr old litweight jmm, gimme a break if pac cares about his legacey he needs to dump blob arum. or start fighting REAL COMPETETION ENOUGH WITH THIS POINTLESS GARBAGE!!!
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Old 05-10-2011, 12:57 AM
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once mosley tasted pac's power, he got scared and went into survival mode. same thing happened with clottey. same thing will happen to wifebeater. same thing will happen to every black boxer pac fights.

100% guarantee that any black boxer pac fights will be a boring fight.
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Old 05-10-2011, 01:35 AM
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once mosley tasted pac's power, he got scared and went into survival mode. same thing happened with clottey. same thing will happen to wifebeater. same thing will happen to every black boxer pac fights.

100% guarantee that any black boxer pac fights will be a boring fight.
yup thats true, the vaunted african american boxer of today are slick yet they have this low tolerance to pain, theyre afraid to get hurt much more get maimed. floyd said it himself he dont want to be like ali in the future or his father and uncle roger. too much head banging hes always seeing the result. floyd is petrified on the possible hurt pacquaio may inflict on him.
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Old 05-10-2011, 01:53 AM
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Shane Mosley is in the vicinity of retirement, and its understable for him to be extra cautious, not getting hurt or suffer serious physical injury, hence, his refusal to box it out toe to toe with Pacman! Its more like a sparring session. You can't blame some critics if they change the name Shane to shame!
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Old 05-10-2011, 02:07 AM
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C mon man we all know this was a bullsh*t fight!! Bob Arum must a gave mosley some extra cash for not trying to hurt his cash cow pacquiao! That 3rd knockdown was bullsh*t! He didn't even get hit that hard! What was Mosley whispering in mannys ear, Oh is this how we should make the fight go,
dumbass, arum has been slamming mosley since the end of the fight
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