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Old 05-04-2011, 03:51 PM #1
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I think he would be a top 10 ATG. Anyone agree?
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Old 05-04-2011, 04:20 PM #2
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I don't think so.

But it certainly will have allowed him to achieve more.
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The punch Julian Jackson hit him with would have KO'd every 154lber in history, and most guys who fought between 154-168...it was that massive. I also think that perhaps Norris had a good chin before that, but had it shattered by that KO.
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If Norris had a better chin.....
.....then he would have been sombody else.
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I think he would be a top 10 ATG. Anyone agree?
It's hard to say because he didn't have a really great chin. That's what separates greats a lot of times. Imagine if both Julian Jackson and Terry Norris had phenomenal chins... They'd be Ray Robinson.

I personally like Julian Jackson over Terry Norris but his chin just takes so much away from him.

Gerald McClellan was a guy who had it all.
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If Norris had a better chin.....
Just think of the possibilities:

.....If Chris Byrd could punch
.....If Mike Tyson had an 82" reach
.....If Jermain Taylor had stamina
.....If Ricky Hatton had skill
.....If Ray Mercer had a brain
.....If Riddick Bowe never saw a buffet line
.....If Floyd Mayweather had balls
.....If Manny Pacquiao wasn't skeered of needles
.....If Hector Camacho wasn't a gutless wonder
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Just think of the possibilities:

.....If Chris Byrd could punch
.....If Mike Tyson had an 82" reach
.....If Jermain Taylor had stamina
.....If Ricky Hatton had skill
.....If Ray Mercer had a brain
.....If Riddick Bowe never saw a buffet line

.....If Floyd Mayweather had balls
.....If Manny Pacquiao wasn't skeered of needles
.....If Hector Camacho wasn't a gutless wonder
LMAO!!! Good stuff poet.
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Not only a chin but his mindset. When he wanted to be he could be a beautiful technichian, With a complete offensive arsenal, and great footwork. his other mindset was to at times forget about his skills and just look to overwhelm you with just speed and power, similar to the way gamboa does today and that would leave him vulnerable with his iffy chin. Also there were so many fight that should have happend in his career like jackson rematch, mcclelan,Toney, Vasquez ,Trinidad.
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Right, If the Queen had balls, as they say, she'd be the King. It's a pointless imagining, really.

However, Norris could not have cracked the top-10 PFP of all-time with a better chin, no way.
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Right, If the Queen had balls, as they say, she'd be the King. It's a pointless imagining, really.

However, Norris could not have cracked the top-10 PFP of all-time with a better chin, no way.
Some people don't seem to grasp how elite "top 10 P4P all time" actually is.
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