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Old 05-02-2011, 10:57 PM
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Default Tunney's all time heanyweight ranking?

I found this ridiculous list on another site and it got me to thinking about where Gene Tunney should really rank amongst the heavyweight greats.

1/. Muhammad Ali
2/. Jack Dempsey
3/. Joe Louis
4/. George Foreman
5/. Jack Johnson
6/. Joe Frazier
7/. Gene Tunney
8/. Sonny Liston
9/. Rocky Marciano
10/. Mike Tyson

Besides beating a 3 year inactive Jack Dempsey, the fighting marine beat no one really noteworthy of such lofty status at heavyweight to be ranked above Liston, Marciano, Tyson, Lewis or even Ezzard Charles for that matter. Based on accomplishment at heavyweight I don't think Tunney makes the top 20. Opinions?
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Old 05-02-2011, 11:11 PM
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I totally agree with that. I don't really think to kindly when I see him around the top 10. He should have lost that 2nd dempsey fight hands down. He got knocked out.

I actually dont think that's the craziest list Ive ever seen list. Definitely seen way worst haha It's not too crazy. Maybe switch a few of the names around, maybe add a person or 2. I mean Tyson shouldn't be there yet maybe Frazier at best be mentioned possibly fighting for the last spot or 2.

I think Ali's is the greatest Heavyweight ever. With Joe Louis a damn close 2nd. Then probably Dempsey. Thats my top 3 atleast.
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I totally agree with that. I don't really think to kindly when I see him around the top 10. He should have lost that 2nd dempsey fight hands down. He got knocked out.

I actually dont think that's the craziest list Ive ever seen list. Definitely seen way worst haha It's not too crazy. Maybe switch a few of the names around, maybe add a person or 2. I mean Tyson shouldn't be there yet maybe Frazier at best be mentioned possibly fighting for the last spot or 2.

I think Ali's is the greatest Heavyweight ever. With Joe Louis a damn close 2nd. Then probably Dempsey. Thats my top 3 atleast.
Tunney and Dempsey are WAY to high. Dempsey ducked his two biggest challenges. How the hell can he rank above Joe Louis? Ludicrous.

Larry Holmes should be in there. Holyfeild and Lewis to, in my opinion.

I would also put Norton, Patterson, Schmeling, Jeffries, Walcott, Baer, Langford, Wills and maybe even (can't believe Im going to actually say it) Wlad above him at heavyweight, and maybe others
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Tunney and Dempsey are WAY to high. Dempsey ducked his two biggest challenges. How the hell can he rank above Joe Louis? Ludicrous.

Larry Holmes should be in there. Holyfeild and Lewis to, in my opinion.

I would also put Norton, Patterson, Schmeling, Jeffries, Walcott, Baer, Langford, Wills and maybe even (can't believe Im going to actually say it) Wlad above him at heavyweight, and maybe others
Holy ***** man hahaha I might actually put Vital in front of Wlad because he did fight Lewis and took him to war. Losses too Bryd & Lewis I don't think are as bad then losses to Sanders, Brewster, and Purrity. But I don't know if I'd put them that high yet haha

I agree with Holmes and Holyfield. Holyfield damn near fought everybody across a few decades haha. Ken Norton definitely don't ever get no love even though he was a nightmare for boxers. Just them damn heavy hitters that got to him.
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I don't rate tunney at HW

1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Jack Johnson
4. Jack Dempsey
5. George Foreman
6. Joe Frazier
7. Sonny Liston
8. Rocky Marciano
9. Larry Holmes
10. Mike Tyson
11. Evander Holyfield
12. Ezzard Charles
13. Lennox Lewis
14. Floyd Patterson
15. Max Baer
16. James Jeffries
17. Gentleman Jim Corbett
18. Max Schmeling
19. Jersey Joe Walcott
20. Bowe/Fitzimmons

I don't think Tunney makes it. Very good LHW though
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I don't rate tunney at HW

1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Jack Johnson
4. Jack Dempsey
5. George Foreman
6. Joe Frazier
7. Sonny Liston
8. Rocky Marciano
9. Larry Holmes
10. Mike Tyson
11. Evander Holyfield
12. Ezzard Charles
13. Lennox Lewis
14. Floyd Patterson
15. Max Baer
16. James Jeffries
17. Gentleman Jim Corbett
18. Max Schmeling
19. Jersey Joe Walcott
20. Bowe/Fitzimmons

I don't think Tunney makes it. Very good LHW though
He was a tremendous light heavyweight, but his accomplishments and lack of longevity at heavyweight prevent him from being anywhere near the top in my opinion.
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He was a tremendous light heavyweight, but his accomplishments and lack of longevity at heavyweight prevent him from being anywhere near the top in my opinion.
That's reasonable. You can make a decent case for Tunney beating some of the others on the list, but his record at heavyweight is too sparse to rate him there.
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That's reasonable. You can make a decent case for Tunney beating some of the others on the list, but his record at heavyweight is too sparse to rate him there.
Whats your opinion of Dempsey being ranked #2?
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Whats your opinion of Dempsey being ranked #2?
Like many others, I have Ali and Louis in the top two spots. I can be a lot more flexible after that.
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It makes about as much sense as ranking Roy Jones there. Tunney had what, maybe a half a dozen fights at Heavyweight out of a 60+ fight career? It just doesn't make any sense. I guess there's too much of a "once a Heavyweight always a Heavyweight" kind of mentality but hell, you see some of our weight jumpers of recent vintage like De La Hoya and Mosley getting ranked at weights where they stopped for a couple of fights at best.

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