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Old 04-29-2011, 01:51 PM
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Default Dan Rafael proves Timothy Bradley is ducking Khan 100%

Dan Rafael investigated why the fight is not happening, and he found out Bradley IS INDEED ducking Khan, because he can make a little less money, about $100,000 less to fight anyone else he wants. This is due to Bradleys guarantee by HBO. Make no MISTAKE, this is why Bradley is DUCKING Khan, he wants an EASIER opponent. Team Bradley is openly admitting this.

Dan Rafael also says Bradley is a very unpopular fighter, with basically NO fans, he couldn't even sell 2,000 tickets in his own hometown!!! Bradley is a non-entity.

He also proves its Bradley's problem with HBO and Shaw, not Khan! Bradley IS DUCKING KHAN. Read the article below if you do not believe me.



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The clumsy Timothy Bradley-Devon Alexander fight (and HBO contract) has, for the moment, stalled the potentially exciting developments at junior welterweight.

The plan started off with a bang. Khan fought Maidana in December in a tremendous fight, which will be honored next week in Las Vegas at the annual Boxing Writers Association of America awards dinner as the 2010 fight of the year.

But then Bradley and Alexander met in January to unify their belts. Great idea on paper, but a horrendous stinker in the ring, exacerbated by an inexplicable guarantee by HBO to pay hefty fees for their next fights, win or lose.

Bradley-Alexander ended in an unsatisfying technical decision in a venue where it didn't belong -- the cavernous Silverdome in Pontiac, Mich., where few cared to come out on a bitterly cold and snowy night. Even if the weather had been great, Bradley and Alexander had no connection to the region.

To top it off, the fight did a miserable rating, considering the $3 million or so HBO paid for it and all the marketing assets it put behind the fight. The public, largely unfamiliar with either guy, basically ignored it. I won't second-guess the making of the fight at all. You win some, you lose some. But the problem is that HBO remains on the hook to pay big money for the fighters' next bouts, which is an issue as it tries to lock down Bradley-Khan for the finale of the unofficial tournament.

Specifically, HBO wants to put on Bradley-Khan in another unification bout on July 23.

Khan easily won an interim bout April 16 against Paul McCloskey and worked out his deal with promoter Golden Boy to face Bradley. Golden Boy's Richard Schaefer and Shaw cut their deal, as well as one with HBO, which is willing to pay $3 million for the fight.


The last piece of the puzzle was for Shaw to come to terms with Bradley and his managers, Cameron Dunkin and Michael Miller.
That's where it gets sticky and that's why it doesn't look like the fight will happen, unless something radically changes between Shaw and Team Bradley.

They disagree on the money, naturally, and if you know Dunkin and Shaw, that won't be easy to overcome. They get along about as well as Democrats and Republicans.

I guess it's possible that HBO could throw more money at the fight to bridge the gap, but don't count on it; $3 million is already a huge number for the fight.

Khan did a big crowd of about 17,000 in his native England for the McCloskey fight.

Bradley is a non-entity when it comes to selling tickets in the United States -- another reason why his HBO fees are so out of whack with reality. He hasn't even been able to sell out a 2,000-seat ballroom in a casino minutes from his hometown of Palm Springs, Calif. (If Bradley-Khan actually does come off, it belongs in England, but that ain't happening.)

Shaw told me that Bradley and his managers rejected an offer of more than $1.3 million for the fight, which probably would generate somewhere in the neighborhood of $3.3 million (HBO money, gate, sponsors and foreign TV minus expenses). Dunkin confirmed the offer.

Bradley's number could rise depending on the variables of the revenues (other than the HBO money) because he and Shaw maintain an 80-20 split of the profit (80 percent to Bradley).

That's an enormous payday for Bradley, considering he has no real public profile and would be making about $200,000 more than he made to fight Alexander. Some might think Shaw should pay him more. Others might think Bradley is a fool to turn down that kind of money. But this is an important factor to consider: When HBO made Bradley-Alexander, each guy was guaranteed at least a $1.2 million fight in his return, win or lose.

Alexander's is June 25 against Lucas Matthysse. Bradley's is supposed to be against Khan. But here's the position of Bradley's team: Why not just take a $1.2 million fight against, theoretically, an easier opponent, instead of facing Khan for a few dollars more?

Also, according to Shaw and Dunkin, Bradley's next fight is due to take place by June 30, which is when Bradley's deal with Shaw expires. Bradley was willing to put off the fight for an extra three weeks because HBO has no dates available before the end of June, but if he doesn't take the Khan fight, he may be waiting a lot longer.

In that case, Khan would keep July 23 and fight somebody else. (I'd like to see titleholder Zab Judah get the call, especially now that it's unlikely Juan Manuel Marquez will accept an offer to face him July on HBO PPV on July 30.)

That would leave Bradley idle until at least September (HBO likely won't do a fight in August) and probably upset, because he was supposed to fight by June 30.

All of this could have been avoided had HBO not promised a return fight for a big fee to a guy with no ability to generate revenue outside of an arbitrary license fee. Without that crutch, the $1.3 million-plus to fight Khan probably would be looking pretty sweet to Bradley.

What we are seeing unfold right now is the downside of a bad business deal for Bradley-Alexander. It was a fight many of us wanted to see. But at what cost?

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Old 04-29-2011, 02:04 PM
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it's HBO's fault not Bradley's for promising him, and anyone else, future fights at certain price points regardless of how they perform or rate.

if Bradley wants a 1.2 million dollar fight prior to Khan why shouldn't he have HBO own up to that?
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Old 04-29-2011, 02:05 PM
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It has now been conclusively proven Bradley is ducking Khan. So who is the coward now?

And lets drop this nonsense of Khan outpricing himself. That is nonsense. Bradley is a coward.
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Old 04-29-2011, 02:07 PM
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lol @ the coward references

okay man have fun with it
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Old 04-29-2011, 02:07 PM
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it's HBO's fault not Bradley's for promising him, and anyone else, future fights at certain price points regardless of how they perform or rate.

if Bradley wants a 1.2 million dollar fight prior to Khan why shouldn't he have HBO own up to that?
Whether or not the reason is correct, Bradley IS DUCKING Khan.

Why does he want an easier opponent, if he thinks he can beat Khan? When Bradley has been openly saying he wants to fight Khan, and that Khan is ducking him?

Why was Bradley openly LYING to our faces for all these months? He shouldn't have been pretending he wanted to fight Khan, when it's obvious Bradley is TOO SCARED to put it on the line at this moment.

But HBO has a contract where the pre-approved fights are with Khan, Maidana, Berto, or a rematch with Alexander. The only realistic one is Khan. So Bradley is the one breaking his agreement.

And how DARE he lie that Khan is ducking him? What a blatant liar this pu$$y is.

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It's HBO's fault. Not Bradley's. Just the same old gay ass boxing politics.
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Old 04-29-2011, 02:13 PM
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It's HBO's fault. Not Bradley's. Just the same old gay ass boxing politics.
If Bradley wanted to fight Khan he could. And he has been saying FOR MONTHS that he would. Why was he lying?

The fact is Bradley is ducking this fight because he wants to milk his situation, when ANY OTHER fighter does this, all of you accuse them of being cowards and duckers.

But now that some black American does it? Its not his fault? What if Khan was using this excuse to not fight Bradley? All of your heads would be exploding in anger.

Stop being hypocritical, Bradley is ducking, and it is his fault. Especially since he has been pretending he WOULD fight Khan for a long time.
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If HBO wants to be a dumbasss and pay over the odds for a fight that involves 2 fighters who werent big enough in terms of sales/popularity then that their problem. But when they guarantee those fighters another ridiculous pay whether they win or lose then they need their heads checked, I dont blame Bradley at all but No one can blame Khan if this fight never happens in the future.
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Spitballa are you stupid or just trolling?
Bradley can fight a bum, get paid 1m, then fight Khan and get another 1m.

If he fights Khan now he walks away from a free 1m. You know he has NO fans which means he depends on TV money, so wouldnt you agree he would be stupid to walk away from 1m when the Khan fight can happen in September for example
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Whether or not the reason is correct, Bradley IS DUCKING Khan.

Why does he want an easier opponent, if he thinks he can beat Khan? When Bradley has been openly saying he wants to fight Khan, and that Khan is ducking him?

Why was Bradley openly LYING to our faces for all these months? He shouldn't have been pretending he wanted to fight Khan, when it's obvious Bradley is TOO SCARED to put it on the line at this moment.
Im a Khan fan and believe Khan beats Bradley but you are looking too much into the "easier opponent" thing. Bradley has played it smart here. Without Bradley, Khan cannot unify the division as he wishes and vice versa.

He isn't ducking but simply prolonging the bout for some money. You can call it a duck if you wish but IMO that's a stupid opinion to hold. If he chooses to fight someone else and then straight afterwards goes for Khan this ducking issue holds no ground and he's ended up making 1.2 million and still having Khan available for battle.
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