Roy Jones recent training

[nachorjj]

This is not recent. I see this in 2008 or 2009

[RAV3N]

Originally Posted by Blah!

now your dumb ass is getting boxing fundamentals mixed up with technique, what roy is suppossedly missing, is hands up, jabbing etc idiot

So having basic defencive techniques is not a technique any more?

I think you have athleticism mixed up with boxing/sport smarts.

Also you reply like a loud mouth 13 yo kid who thinks he knows everything.

[TheHolyCross]

Originally Posted by RAV3N

So having basic defencive techniques is not a technique any more?

I think you have athleticism mixed up with boxing/sport smarts.

Also you reply like a loud mouth 13 yo kid who thinks he knows everything.

you really are slow
im taking by boxing smarts you mean reading fighters that analyze the situations like marquez, mayweather, hopkins but no, that's not what i mean, stupid

[Pele..Rjj..23]

Originally Posted by lyrical

i love this video, I miss the real Roy

same here bro

[cantbestopped]

so it is ok to do the slow shadowboxing to the beat with dumbbells for beginners like in the video?

[RAV3N]

Originally Posted by Blah!

you really are slow
im taking by boxing smarts you mean reading fighters that analyze the situations like marquez, mayweather, hopkins but no, that's not what i mean, stupid

Boxing smarts, reflexes, ring experience, muscle memory, physical conditioning and mental state (could be missing a couple of things but I could go on forever) all combine together to make a good fighter, not some stupid thing you read on the wiki which you think makes you smart.

PEDs help physical conditioning which in turn gives the user a unfair advantage but if you cant see that because you hug RJJ's nuts then you are the one with the problem not me.

[TheHolyCross]

Originally Posted by RAV3N

Boxing smarts, reflexes, ring experience, muscle memory, physical conditioning and mental state (could be missing a couple of things but I could go on forever) all combine together to make a good fighter, not some stupid thing you read on the wiki which you think makes you smart.

PEDs help physical conditioning which in turn gives the user a unfair advantage but if you cant see that because you hug RJJ's nuts then you are the one with the problem not me.

funny how you ignore:

ped's has nothin to do with it, and im not denying roy was on ped's, no matter how much ped's you inject up your abused ass.hole will make you fight like him, it's all technique there boy, get over it

im not talking about how good of a fighter he is, im talking about how good of an athlete he is, and by athlete i mean his natural sense of position and technique for optimum power in his punches, even his footwork, it's instinctual
PED's can help your stamina, make you hit harder, maybe even punch faster, but it doesn't help your technique, do you know what punch technique is stupid?

other fighters have taken PED's, how many have fought like roy jones? stop acting so stupid, atleast for your sake i hope it's an act
roy and mayweather aren't the only people to have started boxing at a young age(in roy's case, he started at 10)

[RAV3N]

Originally Posted by Blah!

funny how you ignore:

im not talking about how good of a fighter he is, im talking about how good of an athlete he is, and by athlete i mean his natural sense of position and technique for optimum power in his punches, even his footwork, it's instinctual
PED's can help your stamina, make you hit harder, maybe even punch faster, but it doesn't help your technique, do you know what punch technique is stupid?

other fighters have taken PED's, how many have fought like roy jones? stop acting so stupid, atleast for your sake i hope it's an act
roy and mayweather aren't the only people to have started boxing at a young age(in roy's case, he started at 10)

Isnt this just muscle memory, training and ring experience?

Obviously not everyone can attain the same skill level, its the same with any human in anything.

But I think you find that boxers who were raised in a boxing family and taught since a very early age (Mayweather was boxing when he could walk pretty much and RJJ's father had a boxing gym) then you tend to be pretty good.

I bet you if you started something at the age of 4 then you should be bloody good at it when you get older.

So let me just ask that if a athlete takes PEDs it shouldnt tarnish their time spent in the sport because their technique is great?

[TheHolyCross]

Originally Posted by RAV3N

Isnt this just muscle memory, training and ring experience?

no it's not, some people already know how to move for optimum leverage on just about every sport, when people like roy jones first attempted boxing, there's no need to even teach them the proper way to throw a punch, they'll know, it's called being body smart

Obviously not everyone can attain the same skill level, its the same with any human in anything.

But I think you find that boxers who were raised in a boxing family and taught since a very early age (Mayweather was boxing when he could walk pretty much and RJJ's father had a boxing gym) then you tend to be pretty good.

I bet you if you started something at the age of 4 then you should be bloody good at it when you get older.

hopkins started boxing about 5 years before roy jones, won his first tournament at 9 years of age, where as roy had his first fight at 10, why is'nt he more/as athletic is jones?

So let me just ask that if a athlete takes PEDs it shouldnt tarnish their time spent in the sport because their technique is great?

i dont care for legacy's, PED's or not, you're not fighting like roy jones, is all im saying

[RAV3N]

Originally Posted by Blah!

no it's not, some people already know how to move for optimum leverage on just about every sport, when people like roy jones first attempted boxing, there's no need to even teach them the proper way to throw a punch, they'll know, it's called being body smart



hopkins started boxing about 5 years before roy jones, won his first tournament at 9 years of age, where as roy had his first fight at 10, why is'nt he more/as athletic is jones?



i dont care for legacy's, PED's or not, you're not fighting like roy jones, is all im saying

Im pretty sure that RJJ didnt throw a perfect punch straight away once he started boxing, he must of been taught the correct techniques in the first place.

Althletic ability has alot to do with genetics as well, like I said not all people can attain the same level in everything, your genetic makeup will have bearing on all things that you can do.

But on the other hand Hopkins is technically a much better boxer then RJJ because he learnt all the right techniques and doesnt have bad habits like RJJ because Hopkins couldnt rely on a really high athletic ability like RJJ could.

Im not denying that RJJ had great athletic ability amongst other things but I think he lost alot of respect when he tested positive for PEDs. Especially with his natural ablity did he really need to?