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Old 04-26-2011, 08:53 AM
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No real response in NSB yesterday on this. The topic briefly shifted to whether not he's HOF worthy. I say not just yet and gave a couple examples of what I think he could do to get there.

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Looking at all the threads on the first page is making me sick, for the most part its about fantasy fights and people who are making excuse after excuse not to fight certain other fighters (unfortunately my boy Pwill is guilty of this right now too).

We should be talking about real fighters more, so here's a little tribute to Vic D, who's been knocking mothafukas out, fighting the best he can, and entertaining crowds since at least '04.

I know he makes some excuses after his fights, I know he's like James Toney and never gives his opponents any props, but so what. Look who he fights:

-He blew out a 30-0 Irene Pacheco for his first IBF belt,
-bombed out Maldanado,
-entertaining fight with Burgos,
-got KTFO by DOnaire (no shame in that obviously).
-Beats down a red hot Mijares for the unified title at Superfly.
-makes Arce's face mined meat
-fights a tricky badass like Agbeko in his first step up fight to bantam (Agbeko should have been undefeated)
- fights the wrong fight vs Mares the beast and loses a razor thin decision
-comes back to bumrush and beat down and admittedly flat perez, but he did what he had to do.

The guy has fought a ridiculous amount of actual champions. 9 champions, not former or future- current.

Love fighters like him
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Old 04-26-2011, 09:07 AM
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He just needs to finish the job against Mares and then if he can beat or at least look good vs Donaire, he is HOF-worthy. Oh yes, and Agbeko too. He needs to rematch him. He was butted too much in that fight, but Vic-haters tend to ignore that and say Agbeko "owned" him.
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Old 04-26-2011, 10:49 AM
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He's worthy of consideration, maybe just one big win away. Darchinyan has been in with the best available competition and deserves credit for that.
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Old 04-26-2011, 10:55 AM
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He just needs to finish the job against Mares and then if he can beat or at least look good vs Donaire, he is HOF-worthy. Oh yes, and Agbeko too. He needs to rematch him. He was butted too much in that fight, but Vic-haters tend to ignore that and say Agbeko "owned" him.
I'm no Vic hater for sure but I was ringside for that fight and I thought Agbeko won. Vic just wasn't able to rough up a dude at BW on his first fight there, he thought he was still going to be the bully.

It was a fairly close fight but a clear win for King Kong that night.
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Old 04-26-2011, 11:12 AM
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I'm no Vic hater for sure but I was ringside for that fight and I thought Agbeko won. Vic just wasn't able to rough up a dude at BW on his first fight there, he thought he was still going to be the bully.

It was a fairly close fight but a clear win for King Kong that night.
Fine, so Agbeko's got his number, MAYBE. We'll see that if they ever fight again. But there are SO many Vic-haters there and they'll support ANYBODY who beats him or has the slightest chance to. I think thats pathetic!
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Old 04-26-2011, 11:21 AM
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Fine, so Agbeko's got his number, MAYBE. We'll see that if they ever fight again. But there are SO many Vic-haters there and they'll support ANYBODY who beats him or has the slightest chance to. I think thats pathetic!
People might hate him because of his personality, but they should definitely respect him as a fighter.

If not, it's just fukin stupid.
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Old 04-26-2011, 11:33 AM
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People might hate him because of his personality, but they should definitely respect him as a fighter.

If not, it's just fukin stupid.
I hear you bro.
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Old 04-26-2011, 11:37 AM
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Agbeko was a too big a jump I think too fast, I watched it and though Agbeko won easily, and I'm Aussie/Vic supporter. I think he has done alot and his record isn't filled with bums.

Sure he has lost a few times but always bounces back. Maybe another big win cements his legacy.
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Old 04-26-2011, 11:48 AM
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Agbeko was a too big a jump I think too fast, I watched it and though Agbeko won easily, and I'm Aussie/Vic supporter. I think he has done alot and his record isn't filled with bums.

Sure he has lost a few times but always bounces back. Maybe another big win cements his legacy.
And that win may be Donaire! Every1 forgets Vic was doing well in that fight until he lounged in carelessly and got koed. So no way should Donaire now have an easy time with Vic, in the rematch. It may produce a classic, a FOTY.
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I have the world of respect for Vic and he is a very entertaining fighter.

But I don't think he is HOF calibur personally, atleast yet.
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