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Old 04-06-2011, 01:19 PM
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Old 04-06-2011, 01:20 PM
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did he officially win??no..list official wins man..he has 6 official wins worth mentioning..your OPINION isnt an official result
so Whitaker doesnt have a win over Chavez?

huh...well, that takes his legacy down a notch. a damn shame.
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Old 04-06-2011, 01:21 PM
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De La Hoya was not a top win in any sense
it is laughable someone put him as one of his top 6 wins
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Old 04-06-2011, 01:43 PM
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Old 04-06-2011, 01:50 PM
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did he officially win??no..list official wins man..he has 6 official wins worth mentioning..your OPINION isnt an official result
official results are just the opinions of the judges.except judges are influenced by the crowd, politics, etc....why would anyone trust people who have very little credibility?
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Old 04-06-2011, 01:58 PM
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so Whitaker doesnt have a win over Chavez?

huh...well, that takes his legacy down a notch. a damn shame.
You are delusional. Whitaker won up to 8-9 rounds by a wide margin. Hopkins kissed the kanvass twice and lost early rounds, no way he beat Pascal convincingly. The fight was draw, enough crying from crybaby Hopkins and his butthurt fans.


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You are delusional. Whitaker won up to 8-9 rounds by a wide margin. Hopkins kissed the kanvass twice and lost early rounds, no way he beat Pascal convincingly. The fight was draw, enough crying from crybaby Hopkins and his butthurt fans.

So, since when was Lederman an official ringside judge at that fight? Why don't you picture the official scoring instead?

You bias pile of crap.
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Old 04-06-2011, 02:11 PM
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So, since when was Lederman an official ringside judge at that fight? Why don't you picture the official scoring instead?

You bias pile of crap.
Chuck Giampa official judge for Hopkins-Calzaghe saw the fight just like Lederman

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This is pretty much shows what happened inside the ring. Even crooked biased judges at Hopkins's backyard thought that Calzaghe beat Hopkins.
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Old 04-06-2011, 02:16 PM
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Chuck Giampa official judge for Hopkins-Calzaghe saw the fight just like Lederman

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This is pretty much shows what happened inside the ring. Even crooked biased judges at Hopkins's backyard thought that Calzaghe beat Hopkins.
no it shows what happens inside the mind of a crappy judge. lederman had a conflict of interest as well since calzaghe-jones on hbo ppv was basically a done deal if calzaghe won. lederman had williams beating quintana and alexander beating kotelnik. no credibility.

giampa scored mayweather-delahoya 8 rounds to 4 for mayweather yet this fight 9 rounds to 3 for calzaghe when they were nearly identical. one guy coming forward throwing ineffective punches and the other guy moving and landing the clean shots. that shows he is not ideologically consistent when he scores a similar fight so different. no credibility.

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1. Felix Trinidad - There is no question this is his top win. Trinidad was 40-0, a huge favorite, and had just destroyed William Joppy, a real full fledged middleweight titlist. Hopkins skillfully controlled this fight all the way through and knocked him out. Far and away his top win.
2. Antonio Tarver - Moving up two divisions in weight to dominate the guy who twice beat Roy Jones Jr. and beat Glen Johnson in the rematch (arguably in both fights) is pretty impressive, especially coming off two losses which made many people think that he was totally done as an elite fighter.
3. Winky Wright - Although Winky was not a 170 pounder, he looked pretty okay in the fight. Hopkins was able to get around Wright's defense better than anyone previously; this was when Wright was P4P #3.
4. Kelly Pavlik - Like Winky, Pavlik was enjoying a lot of success at middleweight when he moved up to fight Bernard Hopkins. Unlike Winky, he seemed dead at the weight. Even so, you have to take your hat off to the game plan of Bernard Hopkins to totally shut down a young kid, who throws a million punches with power. Pavlik was 34-0-0 at the time, and held two wins over Jermain Taylor, who held two wins over Hopkins to start his middleweight reign.
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