Neither Klit has ever beaten an elite fighter.

[crold1]

Originally Posted by blackirish137

you can be an ATG without beating an elite fighter.

Wladimir Klitschko, depending on how is career goes, will probably be an ATG and/or top ten at HW by the time his career is over.

Chris Byrd was an elite fighter. He lacked power but he was as big or bigger than lots of history's quality Heavies. He handled other much larger men and juked Vit's shoulder out of its socket. Wlad's two wins over Byrd are elite.

[Steak]

Originally Posted by crold1

Chris Byrd was an elite fighter. He lacked power but he was as big or bigger than lots of history's quality Heavies. He handled other much larger men and juked Vit's shoulder out of its socket. Wlad's two wins over Byrd are elite.

I dont know what people consider 'elite' or not. regardless, if you beat all the best opponents at your weight class over and over dominantly, then you can beat an ATG, regardless if theyre 'elite' or not.

Byrd is definitely Wlads best win to me, as well.

[Steelhammer2011]

There have been 5 southpaw heavyweight champs in boxing history.

Chris Byrd
Ruslan Chagaev
Sultan Ibragimov
Corrie Sanders
Michael Moorer

Tony Thompson and Juan Carlos Gomez are the two best southpaws who haven't won a HW title. Gomez was cruiserweight champ, made 11 title defences.

The Klitschkos have defeated 6 of the 7 best southpaws of all time.

[minasyan]

of course to you guys they're not elite cos they are not americans and the media hasn't exposed these fighters to you

[Joeyzagz]

Ike Ibeabucci lobotomized Chris Byrd and had him drooling like a baby in 5 rounds. The Klits both struggled with him first time around and failed to ko him.

Ibragimov is an overated bum. He got his belt beating shot Holyfield and shot-fat Briggs.

WLad has never beaten a fighter with a fan base. None of his opponents have fans, and no one cares who they are..

[Jcsuper]

lol, I respect both Klitschko as fighters, but seriously Steelhamer you need to take their d1ck out of your mouth

[Derranged]

Hey Craps.. Why do you have two men kissing in your avatar?

[Steelhammer2011]

Ibeabuchi was struggling and lost rounds against green Byrd before the stoppage.

Vitali got a freak injury in the 2nd round and he still dominated Byrd.

If a one armed Vitali can dominate Byrd, just imagine what a healthy Vitali would've done to Byrd.

A healthy Vitali destroys Byrd and you haters know it.

Wlad didn't struggle against Byrd you retarded liar.

In the first fight, Wlad dominated every round and knocked Byrd down 3 times.

In the rematch, Wlad dominated every round again and destroyed Byrd in 7 rounds.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

Steelhammer2011, you've become a broken record player, my black brotha. You need to change it up and quite copy and pasting older posts.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

Originally Posted by Steelhammer2011

Ibeabuchi was struggling and lost rounds against green Byrd before the stoppage.

Vitali got a freak injury in the 2nd round and he still dominated Byrd.

If a one armed Vitali can dominate Byrd, just imagine what a healthy Vitali would've done to Byrd.

A healthy Vitali destroys Byrd and you haters know it.

Wlad didn't struggle against Byrd you retarded liar.

In the first fight, Wlad dominated every round and knocked Byrd down 3 times.

In the rematch, Wlad dominated every round again and destroyed Byrd in 7 rounds.

Vitali was getting owned in that last round of the Byrd fight. Any more of that and he was going down. Thats why he quite. No heart when the going gets too tough. A true champion goes out on his shield.