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Old 02-28-2011, 01:55 PM
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Maybe I was reaching a tad.

I'm a little biased when it comes to Ortiz. He's my 2nd favourite Bantam.

I think it's hard to tell as it's such a space in time.

But Ortiz definitely had the skills to atleast be competitive with him.
I don't think its reaching at all if we predict now its most likely gonna be in favor of greats, I don't think we should really be having this conversation at the moment, lets let Donaire prove himself against Moreno, Agbeko/Mares, Kameda etc.
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Old 02-28-2011, 01:59 PM
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Maybe I was reaching a tad.

I'm a little biased when it comes to Ortiz. He's my 2nd favourite Bantam.

I think it's hard to tell as it's such a space in time.

But Ortiz definitely had the skills to atleast be competitive with him.
I understand. Manuel Ortiz is definitely more skillful than Donaire. Ortiz is a great inside fighter. But the athleticism, punching power, and speed of Donaire will be a problem. Kind of like the more skillful Toney losing to the speadfreak Jones.
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Old 02-28-2011, 02:01 PM
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Yeah thats true, I think were jumping the gun here, I want to see him against someone who can take his punches.
That's the thing. Montiel has a great chin. If he can't take the punches, I don't wager too many at 118 can. Donaire has legitimate ATG power. I'm not one of these guys saying that Donaire is the future GOAT or anything, but I think he could really be something special.
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Old 02-28-2011, 02:01 PM
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I don't think its reaching at all if we predict now its most likely gonna be in favor of greats, I don't think we should really be having this conversation at the moment, lets let Donaire prove himself against Moreno, Agbeko/Mares, Kameda etc.
I think considering the space of time difference it is difficult to evaluate.

Atleast too difficult for me to say he outright wins. Like I said, I am biased toward Manuel Ortiz anyway.

However, I would still lean on Ortiz either way.

Off topic but I cannot wait for Donaire-Moreno (If it happens) Can't wait to see how Donaire deals with Moreno's skills.
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Old 02-28-2011, 02:05 PM
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How come nobody has mentioned Wilfredo Gomez yet? lol
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Old 02-28-2011, 02:08 PM
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How come nobody has mentioned Wilfredo Gomez yet? lol
That's superbantamweight bro.
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Old 02-28-2011, 02:10 PM
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That's superbantamweight bro.
whoops haha my bad, i though somehow ya'll were talking about Donaire moving up to 122, my b's bro....
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Old 02-28-2011, 02:11 PM
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How come nobody has mentioned Wilfredo Gomez yet? lol
He's not a Bantamweight.
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Old 02-28-2011, 02:13 PM
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But since you mentioned it, I think prime Gomez beats Donaire at 122. Gomez is unbeatable at that weight.
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Old 02-28-2011, 02:15 PM
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That's the thing. Montiel has a great chin. If he can't take the punches, I don't wager too many at 118 can. Donaire has legitimate ATG power. I'm not one of these guys saying that Donaire is the future GOAT or anything, but I think he could really be something special.
I think he has ATG power too, but theres more to durability than just a good chin, but there isn't an ATG that can knock everyone out, I want to see what Donaires made of against someone he can't KO.

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I think considering the space of time difference it is difficult to evaluate.

Atleast too difficult for me to say he outright wins. Like I said, I am biased toward Manuel Ortiz anyway.

However, I would still lean on Ortiz either way.

Off topic but I cannot wait for Donaire-Moreno (If it happens) Can't wait to see how Donaire deals with Moreno's skills.
Me too, I've been a big fan of Moreno for a long time, I will be rooting for him.
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