Bookmark Website  | Free Registration  | The Team
Boxing Champions |  Boxing Schedule |  Boxing Video  |  Boxing History   |  Pound For Pound  | Lounge  | The Wire |  Audio  | Arcade

Navigation
Go Back   Boxing Forum > Boxing Forums > Non Stop Boxing
Reply
Thread Navigation

#1
Old 02-18-2011, 05:28 PM
paulf
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: North Tulsa, Oklahoma
Posts: 10,570
Rep Power: 30 paulf has a reputation beyond reputepaulf has a reputation beyond reputepaulf has a reputation beyond reputepaulf has a reputation beyond reputepaulf has a reputation beyond reputepaulf has a reputation beyond reputepaulf has a reputation beyond reputepaulf has a reputation beyond reputepaulf has a reputation beyond reputepaulf has a reputation beyond reputepaulf has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 6,080,646,287.38
Bank: 4,519.30
Total Points: 6,080,650,806.68
you need gifts - TuRoK'em Have a slice - Toney Loc one of boxingscene's best - Freedom. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year - Freedom. happy birthday - -jose- 
A beer for the bday boy! - led 
Default Sergio Martinez has been stripped of 3 world-titles in 10 months. Amazing

Can you image what would happen if this was Floyd? Or Pacman?

WBC Light Middleweight: The WBC informed Martinez (after the fight so they could collect the sanctioning fees first) that he had to vacate either the 154 or 160 strap following the Pavlik fight. Martinez kept the 160. (Went to the winner of Pacquiao-Margarito)

WBO Middleweight: The WBO enforced (for the first time?) a little-known rule that a WBO title holder cannot hold a title or another sanctioning body in another weight class. They gave him a deadline to resolve the situation. I remember Martinez vacated the 154 belt well before the deadline, but they went ahead and stripped him anyway. (Went to the winner of Pirog-Jacobs)

WBC Middleweight: It's always been my belief that Martinez kept the 160 belt because he knew that the WBC wanted to put a strap on Chavez jr, who had ducked him the summer before the Williams fight. Chavez had moved up to 160 because he said he couldn't make 154 any longer. Martinez staying at 160 would force Chavez's hand in that if he wanted a WBC title, he would have to finally get in the ring with Martinez or go to supper-middle. Wrong. Instead, the WBC simply "promoted" Martinez "champion emeritus" which in effect stripped him of the world title. (Promoted Zbik to "full" champ)

I know this isn't anything new, but I was justing thinking about it today with all the talk of Hatton/Alvarez.

Sergio has to fight yet another difficult fight soon against an undefeated Dzinziruk for a fictional title (Diamond Belt, created a year ago!). Meanwhile Chavez jr gets a shot at one of Martinez's titles due to a win against John Duddy and Billy Lyell (8 losses!) and Alvarez gets one of Martinez's titles if he beats Matthew fucking Hatton.

The world's really gone mad. I wish Sergio was more outspoken and called these frauds out to fight him in a more condescending and humiliating tone.

Last edited by paulf; 02-18-2011 at 07:12 PM.
Reply With Quote
paulf is offline
Advertisements
>>>TO REMOVE THESE ADS, PLEASE REGISTER HERE FOR FREE<<<
#2
Old 02-18-2011, 05:30 PM
cleaner147
Retired
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 5,007
Rep Power: 16 cleaner147 has a reputation beyond reputecleaner147 has a reputation beyond reputecleaner147 has a reputation beyond reputecleaner147 has a reputation beyond reputecleaner147 has a reputation beyond reputecleaner147 has a reputation beyond reputecleaner147 has a reputation beyond reputecleaner147 has a reputation beyond reputecleaner147 has a reputation beyond reputecleaner147 has a reputation beyond reputecleaner147 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 2,305,759.82
Bank: 0.01
Total Points: 2,305,759.83
Merry Xmas - mangler Here's a gift - mangler Piece of cake - mangler Have one, bro. - 'Sugar' Freddi .............. - Puft Puft Pass 
Super poster and bud! - jazluvr449 For good luck with your bets! - jazluvr449 1000th post - 'Sugar' Freddi Have a beer :) - Irish Hitman Thanks. - 'Sugar' Freddi 
if you're hungry lol - 'Sugar' Freddi tuna melt - MANGLER thanks - Dale Cardon top person to do bets with - Sir TomJones 
Alzheimer's - Crohn's & Colitis - Cystic Fibrosis - Domestic Violence - Fibromyalgia - Leimyosarcoma - Lupus - Artur Kyshenko Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - jazluvr449 Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - S A M U R A I Anti-Tobacco - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - S A M U R A I Cesarean Sections - Headaches - Hospice Care - Multiple Myeloma - S A M U R A I 
Childhood Cancer - MANGLER Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - MANGLER Aphasia - Asthma/Allergies - Brain Cancer - Brain Tumors - Diabetes - Mental Illness - MANGLER Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - 'Sugar' Freddi Anti-Tobacco - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - 'Sugar' Freddi 
Graves Disease - Lymphedema - Men's Health - Pro Choice - Prostate Cancer - Scleroderma - Thyroid Disease - Trisomy 18 - 'Sugar' Freddi Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - 'Sugar' Freddi Graves Disease - Lymphedema - Men's Health - Pro Choice - Prostate Cancer - Scleroderma - Thyroid Disease - Trisomy 18 - Freedom Fighter Anti-Tobacco - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - 'Sugar' Freddi Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - 'Sugar' Freddi 
Default

and now kids like Alvarez and Chavez Jr fight for his belts I mean WTF is wrong with the WBC.

Last edited by madamfackah; 02-18-2011 at 05:35 PM.
Reply With Quote
cleaner147 is offline
#3
Old 02-18-2011, 05:33 PM
Shadow boxer 3
Ain't no half steppin'
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Carolina
Age: 32
Posts: 9,108
Rep Power: 34 Shadow boxer 3 has a reputation beyond reputeShadow boxer 3 has a reputation beyond reputeShadow boxer 3 has a reputation beyond reputeShadow boxer 3 has a reputation beyond reputeShadow boxer 3 has a reputation beyond reputeShadow boxer 3 has a reputation beyond reputeShadow boxer 3 has a reputation beyond reputeShadow boxer 3 has a reputation beyond reputeShadow boxer 3 has a reputation beyond reputeShadow boxer 3 has a reputation beyond reputeShadow boxer 3 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 27,452.71
Bank: 6,774,033,674,454.05
Total Points: 6,774,033,701,906.76
Congrats on 1K. Have a treat homey. - mangler Cool cat, good poster - mangler for the family. - Ether Happy early Birthday :) :wave: - *Boss Lady* i like your avatar - zab191 
:kiss: - Bossy 
Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - mangler Childhood Cancer - Breakbeat Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - JM1 Childhood Cancer - Dorian Head and Neck Cancer - -Ash- 
Default

"WBC stands for we be crooks." -James Toney
Reply With Quote
Shadow boxer 3 is offline
#4
Old 02-18-2011, 05:36 PM
xAUGUSTUSx
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Age: 32
Posts: 2,949
Rep Power: 0 xAUGUSTUSx has a reputation beyond reputexAUGUSTUSx has a reputation beyond reputexAUGUSTUSx has a reputation beyond reputexAUGUSTUSx has a reputation beyond reputexAUGUSTUSx has a reputation beyond reputexAUGUSTUSx has a reputation beyond reputexAUGUSTUSx has a reputation beyond reputexAUGUSTUSx has a reputation beyond reputexAUGUSTUSx has a reputation beyond reputexAUGUSTUSx has a reputation beyond reputexAUGUSTUSx has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 65,125,586.01
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 65,125,586.01
Default

I agree with everything you just said. I was just talking about this this morning. Fvck the WBC they need to fvck off. Honestly when you think about it all the "organizations" coincidently seem to make moves that benifit eachother all the time. We as fans need to demand these sanctioning bodies to get lost. We should just create a petition and flood all the media outlets with E-mails. Lets go back to having one champ per division. So casual fans can actually tell who the champs are. I'm a hardcore fan and I have a hard time keeping track. I think right now is the time to make a change. It needs to be done to have the sport advance and get back on top.

Last edited by xAUGUSTUSx; 02-18-2011 at 05:39 PM.
Reply With Quote
xAUGUSTUSx is offline
#5
Old 02-18-2011, 05:38 PM
BattleHardened
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,011
Rep Power: 0 BattleHardened has a reputation beyond reputeBattleHardened has a reputation beyond reputeBattleHardened has a reputation beyond reputeBattleHardened has a reputation beyond reputeBattleHardened has a reputation beyond reputeBattleHardened has a reputation beyond reputeBattleHardened has a reputation beyond reputeBattleHardened has a reputation beyond reputeBattleHardened has a reputation beyond reputeBattleHardened has a reputation beyond reputeBattleHardened has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 20,148,913.35
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 20,148,913.35
Default

I dont pay attention to belts anymore TBH. I just judge a fighter by who he fights. Belts mean nothing now-a-days.
Reply With Quote
BattleHardened is offline
#6
Old 02-18-2011, 05:39 PM
the_blueprint
way of life
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: england
Posts: 6,370
Rep Power: 18 the_blueprint has a reputation beyond reputethe_blueprint has a reputation beyond reputethe_blueprint has a reputation beyond reputethe_blueprint has a reputation beyond reputethe_blueprint has a reputation beyond reputethe_blueprint has a reputation beyond reputethe_blueprint has a reputation beyond reputethe_blueprint has a reputation beyond reputethe_blueprint has a reputation beyond reputethe_blueprint has a reputation beyond reputethe_blueprint has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 466,912,302.80
Bank: 206,099,080,848.41
Total Points: 206,565,993,151.21
:) - LDB15 Have a medal - _PlaT_NuM_ yo i'm an emillionaire son - -Boxzilla- CHICKEN!!!!! - _PlaT_NuM_ MORE CHICKEN! - _PlaT_NuM_ 
have a dollar!!!!! - Savino 
Gay and Lesbian Pride - Savino World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - _PlaT_NuM_ Cultural Diversity - Hunger - Leukemia - Lupus - Melanoma - Racial Tolerance - Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy Syndrome - Self Injury - _PlaT_NuM_ AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - _PlaT_NuM_ Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - _PlaT_NuM_ 
Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - _PlaT_NuM_ 
Default

being champion don't mean shiet, there are so many titles in each weight division its crazy, and there are way too many divisions aswell. was better years ago, when if you were the champion, you were THE champion. which made for better fights, because you had to fight the best to be called the best. more about money than titles now.
Reply With Quote
the_blueprint is offline
#7
Old 02-18-2011, 05:41 PM
-Kev-
Hype Beast
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Caribbean
Posts: 21,985
Rep Power: 104 -Kev- has a reputation beyond repute-Kev- has a reputation beyond repute-Kev- has a reputation beyond repute-Kev- has a reputation beyond repute-Kev- has a reputation beyond repute-Kev- has a reputation beyond repute-Kev- has a reputation beyond repute-Kev- has a reputation beyond repute-Kev- has a reputation beyond repute-Kev- has a reputation beyond repute-Kev- has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 63,412.08
Bank: 14,282,476,818,087.27
Total Points: 14,282,476,881,499.36
What would I do without Kev? - Bossy You're the bestest :kiss: - Bossy fresh one, for a smoothy! - negged thx m8! heres another good fruit for your smoothy - negged Here's for the 15K bro. - led* 
One more. Just don't tell your mom. - led* Early birthday shout. Have a great one, bro. - Libido Sanchez Best of the best - BoxingGenius27 Merry Christmas and Happy New Year - Freedom. Happy Holidays -Kev- - !! AI-Holmes!! 
Merry Christmas Kev. Surround yourself with your loved ones and have a cold one. - deanrw B-day - -Mustang- mighty parallelogram for your birthday - Jack Napier Kristen Kreuk will jump out of this cake - Jack Napier happy birthday. - Terrel 
Have a great one - led* Happy New Year sweetheart! - Lorily Lol @ image. - FeFist Long Island Iced Tea! - Dorian Parallelogram - Spray_resistant 
AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - -veteran420- AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - aye, cunts AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - -veteran420- AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - aye, cunts AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - -veteran420- 
AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - -veteran420- AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - aye, cunts AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - -veteran420- AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - aye, cunts AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - -veteran420- 
AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - Dorian AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - Dorian AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - Dorian AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - -Kev- AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - -Kev- 
Myasthenia Gravis - Ovarian Cancer - Sexual Assault - Substance Abuse - Ether Aphasia - Asthma/Allergies - Brain Cancer - Brain Tumors - Diabetes - Mental Illness - Ether Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - Ether Children with Disabilities - Parkinson's Disease - VACTERL - Young Onset Parkinson's Association - Ether Breast Cancer - Birth Parents - Dorian 
Default

We all know who the real champion at 160 is, The Ring champion is Sergio Martinez. The stripping shit is fucked up, but fuck belts. They don't mean much now anyway, being 4 per weight class and their being 1,000 weight classes. The real title is The Ring title nowadays.

I know Martinez has said that he wants it for honor, something about Carlos Monzon having the belt and he wants it too. But he has to realize that the real boxing fans know he's the champion at 160 and he will not be stripped by The Ring.

Last edited by -Kev-; 02-18-2011 at 05:45 PM. Reason: Misspelled Monzon
Reply With Quote
-Kev- is offline
#8
Old 02-18-2011, 05:41 PM
paulf
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: North Tulsa, Oklahoma
Posts: 10,570
Rep Power: 30 paulf has a reputation beyond reputepaulf has a reputation beyond reputepaulf has a reputation beyond reputepaulf has a reputation beyond reputepaulf has a reputation beyond reputepaulf has a reputation beyond reputepaulf has a reputation beyond reputepaulf has a reputation beyond reputepaulf has a reputation beyond reputepaulf has a reputation beyond reputepaulf has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 6,080,646,287.38
Bank: 4,519.30
Total Points: 6,080,650,806.68
you need gifts - TuRoK'em Have a slice - Toney Loc one of boxingscene's best - Freedom. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year - Freedom. happy birthday - -jose- 
A beer for the bday boy! - led 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BattleHardened View Post
I dont pay attention to belts anymore TBH. I just judge a fighter by who he fights. Belts mean nothing now-a-days.
Only for some fighters. Martinez doesn't have the drawing power to assure than his opponents will get a million dollar payday, so unless he has a belt that they want/need, they would rather just avoid him.

If Martinez still had those three titles, he wouldn't have had such a hard time finding an opponent for his next fight. Alvarez, Chavez jr, ect. would have to fight him. Now that they don't have to, they wont.
Reply With Quote
paulf is offline
#9
Old 02-18-2011, 06:50 PM
THe TRiNiTY
Sugar-Will O'-Hurricane
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Washington State.
Posts: 10,265
Rep Power: 33 THe TRiNiTY has a reputation beyond reputeTHe TRiNiTY has a reputation beyond reputeTHe TRiNiTY has a reputation beyond reputeTHe TRiNiTY has a reputation beyond reputeTHe TRiNiTY has a reputation beyond reputeTHe TRiNiTY has a reputation beyond reputeTHe TRiNiTY has a reputation beyond reputeTHe TRiNiTY has a reputation beyond reputeTHe TRiNiTY has a reputation beyond reputeTHe TRiNiTY has a reputation beyond reputeTHe TRiNiTY has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 124,007.05
Bank: 241,333,845.39
Total Points: 241,457,852.44
thanks for the sig - Golden Boy 360 thanks for the sick sig ... - -Boxzilla- Couldn't give you geen K, so have a drink on me. - JAB5239 sux homie ... lemme kno when ur back up and running - -Boxzilla- use this as your toothbrush - JM1 
cheerz man! - Sox8055 
Default

Ehh. I don't really care. This is what happens when you fight the best and defy the sanctioning bodies. They strip you. "Ohhh, oh no. Now I can't pay extra fees after I FIGHT FOR MY LIFE IN THE RING?! Heavens, no."

Big deal. This only gives him less reason to worry about them, and more room to fight the best possible opponents. I only hope more fighters follow his lead, especially in the bigger weight classes.
Reply With Quote
THe TRiNiTY is offline
#10
Old 02-18-2011, 06:52 PM
ChiBoxingNews
Contender
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 112
Rep Power: 4 ChiBoxingNews will become famous soon enough
Points: 19,742.88
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 19,742.88
Default

Do you mind if i repost this on Chicago Boxing News on Facebook ?
Reply With Quote
ChiBoxingNews is offline
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
amazing, martinez, months., sergio, stripped, world-titles

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Privacy Policy - Submit News - Feedback - Site Map - Advertise with Us

Copyright 2003-2013 BoxingScene LLC All rights reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:37 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.