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Old 02-11-2011, 01:38 AM
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I believe that he is the architect of the universe and all which is in it...... But you know in all humbleness what do I know Im 23 and have no Masters or PHD's or travel life imo to give a strong case. But yeah that is what I believe....
I know you do. It's called the argument from design, as I stated. It's not like modern scientists suddenly came up with this sh1t.
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Old 02-11-2011, 01:39 AM
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Then how did Elton john get a kid?
He is not from this universe haha
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Old 02-11-2011, 01:41 AM
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Incidentally, Einstein believed in Spinoza's "God" which is identical with Nature and entirely non-anthropomorphic. Might help if you actually read these texts you instead quote "from authority".
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Old 02-11-2011, 01:47 AM
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Incidentally, Einstein believed in Spinoza's "God" which is identical with Nature and entirely non-anthropomorphic. Might help if you actually read these texts you instead quote "from authority".
what texts?
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Old 02-11-2011, 01:48 AM
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Old 02-11-2011, 01:50 AM
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Its just not biologies field to prove that,Thats theortical Physics.

Plus it is impossible to prove something, only provide theories
experimental evidence proves things.

like if you drop a ball it proves that when you drop something it falls.

if they can create life in a lab with nothing but was around for early earth then it proves that life can come about through processes the same as what earlie earth preformed with chemicals exact to what early earth had to offer.

you cant prove anything with theories, you can only create a prediction to actual experiments. while biology can conduct actuall experiments to prove things.
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Old 02-11-2011, 08:24 AM
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stupid religious twat dont know shyt... don't even try discusing physics science and evolution your stupid religious dumb bible kunt sucking argument does not merit discussion...

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Old 02-11-2011, 10:48 AM
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HA HHA AHA HA AHAH

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eukaryotes reproduce though splitting them selfs and in order for them to have first been given life they probly evolved from a Prokaryote neither of which has anythign to do with any thing im talking about as the first life was probly a virus or an archai.
Not wanting to be an arse but eukaryotic organisms are any organisms that have complex cell structures that are organised with use of internal membranes. Eukaryotes include asexually reproducing organisms such as amoebas as well as sexually producing organisms like people and hermaphrodite organisms like most plants.

The initial post is essentially an argument from authority and a loaded question. "Do you think that scientists ever came to their conclusions about god via their scientific discipline? I do and Einstein the magic wizard of all science believed in GOD QED!"

It's obvious that scientific knowledge can affect a person's belief in gods or the supernatural as science provides explanations about the universe that by necessity exclude the supernatural. And if you don't need god to explain the origin of life, the birth of stars, the cause of lightning, the march of the seasons, the spread of disease, then why revere god at all?

But it's hard for any scientist to actually attempt to study god because god, by its nature, is nebulous and vague and increasingly so as our actual knowledge of the universe increases.

By ascribing mysterious powers and motives to gods you have a get-out clause that essentially inoculates religion from a direct challenge from science. You can't test god, say the religious, because god doesn't want to be tested! When somebody lives it was god who saved them and when someone dies then it was part of god's plan. Belief in god is not rational as it requires the believer to make excuses for his deity's actions and inactions all the time.

Most scientists are not religious. Religiosity tends to decrease as level of education increases. While science cannot disprove god what is does do is remove the explanatory power of god as our collective knowledge of testable, repeatable and predictive models of the way reality works are improved upon.
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Old 02-11-2011, 07:10 PM
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stupid religious twat dont know shyt... don't even try discusing physics science and evolution your stupid religious dumb bible kunt sucking argument does not merit discussion...

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