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Old 01-30-2011, 09:13 PM
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who wins this fight in a neutral place who wins this fight in there prime i got collins by 8-4 decision
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Old 01-31-2011, 04:00 AM
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depends who the referee is coz if it is the guy who refereed Ottke v Reid then Collins has no chance
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Old 01-31-2011, 04:52 AM
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Come on..for fcuk sake sven ottke wasnt any good ...he wasnt in Collins class...sven ottke must have lost half a dozen fights that was give to him by dodgy judging ...I never consider Ottke in any boxing argument as he was that bad
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Old 01-31-2011, 04:53 AM
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Prime Ottke earned his nickname The Phantom for a reason. He was an extremely skilled defensive specialist and almost impossible to hit with a clean shot.

Collins, I feel, is tailormade for Ottke. He'd hit nothing but air all night. So I got a fairly comfortable decision for the mighty Sven.
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:40 PM
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Prime Ottke earned his nickname The Phantom for a reason. He was an extremely skilled defensive specialist and almost impossible to hit with a clean shot.

Collins, I feel, is tailormade for Ottke. He'd hit nothing but air all night. So I got a fairly comfortable decision for the mighty Sven.
What caliber of opponent exactly found him almost impossible to hit with a clean shot ?
I watched him get beat fair and square to many times by fighters not even in collins class !
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Old 01-31-2011, 02:27 PM
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The Irishman wins (unless he is robbed!)

Distance fight with Collins doing most of the damge
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Old 01-31-2011, 02:56 PM
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What caliber of opponent exactly found him almost impossible to hit with a clean shot ?
I watched him get beat fair and square to many times by fighters not even in collins class !
Ottke beat almost everybody. Yeah he had a couple of very debateable decisions towards the end of his career, but before that he had some excellent wins that includes Glenn Johnson and Brewer.
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Ottke beat almost everybody. Yeah he had a couple of very debateable decisions towards the end of his career, but before that he had some excellent wins that includes Glenn Johnson and Brewer.
The reason nobody likes Ottke (myself included) is because he hit like a girl and never fought outside of Germany, certainly gaining the odd crooked decision off the back of it, Reid in particular. But sadly, i have to agree when you say Collins was taylor made for him. The truth is, he was, and yes Ottke was a defensive masterclass, annoyingly so!
But he was also one of the most outstanding amateurs ever to come out of Europe so his boxing pedigree can't be denied. Don't get me wrong, Collins would give him hell from beginning to end, but Ottke would take most of Steve's whirlwind assaults on his arms and gloves, while picking him off with pata-cake counters.
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Neutral location with a fair ref? Of course Collins wins
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if the fight is on the level colloins out works the german to take a ud
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