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Old 01-08-2011, 09:44 AM
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Did Tyson face a younger opponent when he was champ? Did Pattersson?
The comparison is lame because Patterson and Tyson are the YOUNGEST heavyweight champions of all time.

Moreover the comparison is lame because a lot of their opponents' birth dates are missing.

But to answer your question: Yes they both faced younger opponents when they were champs.
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:55 AM
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The comparison is lame because Patterson and Tyson are the YOUNGEST heavyweight champions of all time.

Moreover the comparison is lame because a lot of their opponents' birth dates are missing.

But to answer your question: Yes they both faced younger opponents when they were champs.
haha 2nd reign...Tyson vs Peter McNeeley and Patterson vs Tom McNeeley

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Old 01-08-2011, 10:25 AM
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The comparison is lame because Patterson and Tyson are the YOUNGEST heavyweight champions of all time.

Moreover the comparison is lame because a lot of their opponents' birth dates are missing.

But to answer your question: Yes they both faced younger opponents when they were champs.
Who did they face?
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Old 01-08-2011, 10:38 AM
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Haye rocketed up the ranks as a CW and didnt hang about there, Basically he was a young guy fighting more established guys, as a HW he went straight to world class and at HW the best fighters happen to be older guys, its not like theres an army of 20 year old Mike Tysons out there, anyway most big guys peak in their 30's these days
Who has been world class?
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Old 01-08-2011, 10:57 AM
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He was born in the 1980's.

Why cant Vitali floor anyone under 220 lbs ?
FOR EVERYONE WHO READS THIS:
JoeyZagz is one of the BIGGEST statistical NONSENSE SPEWERS of this website.

Whenever JoeyZagz tells some figures they will be WRONG most of the time. Already in several posts he has been exposed and this time is no different:

Vitali Klitschko KOed 1 opponent below 220 lbs (Vaughn Bean) and 2 who were almost surely below 220 (Delgado, Haynes).

Thus Vitali's KOratio below 220 (3/4 = 75%) is even higher than Lennox' (9/13 = 69%).

Moreover JoeyZagz tries to spin the fact Vitali's average opponent is 235 lbs (since we live in a super heavyweight era) thus it's only natural that Vitali only faced 4x opponents who weighed 220 and below while his beloved Lennox faced 13x(!) such opponents, Mike Tyson did so 30x(!) and Muhammad Ali even an embarrassing 54 times.

Thus the question is not how many opponents did Vitali KO BELOW 220 lbs but how many did he KO ABOVE 220 lbs.

Muhammad Ali KOed 1 opponent above 220 lbs (within 12 rounds: Alvin Lewis, 223 lbs, KO11).
Mike Tyson: 18x
Lennox Lewis: 23x
Vitali Klitschko: 35x (and still counting)

Get over it, JoeyZagz, Vitali Klitschko plays in a different KO league than Lennox Lewis, but if you are so proud then you should print a T-Shirt saying "Lennox Lewis KOed more guys below 220 lbs than Vitali Klitschko". If that makes you happy.
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Old 01-08-2011, 11:05 AM
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Who did they face?
Well?????????
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Old 01-08-2011, 11:14 AM
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Who has been world class?
Well Barrett was a fringe contender who was lower world class, Ruiz a contender, Valuev a champion and Harrison well he wasnt world class but he was a volintary and European Champ
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Old 01-08-2011, 11:15 AM
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Who did they face?
Mike Tyson faced 8 opponents (+9 other with unknown birth dates) who were younger, for example Bruce Seldon.

Floyd Patterson faced 18 (+ 8 unknown) opponents who were younger for example Muhammad Ali, Jimmy Ellis or Tom McNeely.

Also the median age is bewildering

  • David Haye: 34yro opponents (whole career)
  • Floyd Patterson:26yro opponents (whole career)
  • Mike Tyson: 29yro (whole career)

You see, it's not only that he NEVER faced YOUNGER opponents, it's the TYPICAL AGE of opponents that looks suspicious, especially since Haye spent most of his career at cruiserweight where the fighters are usually younger.

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Old 01-08-2011, 11:20 AM
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Who is a world-level Heavyweight younger than Haye?

Eddie Chambers? Povetkins?.........erm........
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Old 01-08-2011, 12:30 PM
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Mike Tyson faced 8 opponents (+9 other with unknown birth dates) who were younger, for example Bruce Seldon.

Floyd Patterson faced 18 (+ 8 unknown) opponents who were younger for example Muhammad Ali, Jimmy Ellis or Tom McNeely.

Also the median age is bewildering
* David Haye: 34yro opponents (whole career)
* Floyd Patterson:26 yro opponents (whole career)
* Mike Tyson: 29yro (whole career)

You see, it's not only that he NEVER faced YOUNGER opponents, it's the TYPICAL AGE of opponents that looks suspicious, especially since Haye spent most of his career at cruiserweight where the fighters are usually younger.
Does this mean that Tyson was 30 before he faced anyone who was younger?

How old is Haye?
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