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Old 01-05-2011, 04:38 PM
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Default Robbie alomar first blue jay voted into baseball hall of fame!!!!

As a lifetime Blue Jay fan this is a day of pride for me, Roberto Alomar has been voted into the baseball hall of fame with 90% of the vote -- the third highest ever!!!!!!

Thanks for the wonderful memories, you deserve it brother!!!!!!

Roberto Alomar Stats Are Those Of A True Baseball Hall Of Famer

Jan 05 2:53p by Jeff Sullivan

Earlier on Wednesday, the 2011 Baseball Hall of Fame voting results were revealed, and two new players were elected into Cooperstown. Bert Blyleven picked up 79.7% of the vote, while Roberto Alomar blew by everybody in getting his name on 90.0% of all ballots. Alomar was clearly seen by the BBWAA as a very strong candidate, and in looking at his career numbers, it isn't hard to figure out why.
Year Tm G PA R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+
1988 SDP 143 611 84 145 24 6 9 41 24 47 83 .266 .328 .382 .709 105
1989 SDP 158 702 82 184 27 1 7 56 42 53 76 .295 .347 .376 .723 107
1990 SDP 147 646 80 168 27 5 6 60 24 48 72 .287 .340 .381 .721 98
1991 TOR 161 719 88 188 41 11 9 69 53 57 86 .295 .354 .436 .791 115
1992 TOR 152 671 105 177 27 8 8 76 49 87 52 .310 .405 .427 .832 129
1993 TOR 153 683 109 192 35 6 17 93 55 80 67 .326 .408 .492 .900 141
1994 TOR 107 455 78 120 25 4 8 38 19 51 41 .306 .386 .452 .838 116
1995 TOR 130 577 71 155 24 7 13 66 30 47 45 .300 .354 .449 .803 109
1996 BAL 153 699 132 193 43 4 22 94 17 90 65 .328 .411 .527 .938 136
1997 BAL 112 469 64 137 23 2 14 60 9 40 43 .333 .390 .500 .890 134
1998 BAL 147 657 86 166 36 1 14 56 18 59 70 .282 .347 .418 .765 100
1999 CLE 159 694 138 182 40 3 24 120 37 99 96 .323 .422 .533 .955 139
2000 CLE 155 697 111 189 40 2 19 89 39 64 82 .310 .378 .475 .853 114
2001 CLE 157 677 113 193 34 12 20 100 30 80 71 .336 .415 .541 .956 150
2002 NYM 149 655 73 157 24 4 11 53 16 57 83 .266 .331 .376 .708 89
2003 TOT 140 598 76 133 28 2 5 39 12 59 77 .258 .333 .349 .682 80
2003 NYM 73 302 34 69 17 1 2 22 6 29 40 .262 .336 .357 .693 84
2003 CHW 67 296 42 64 11 1 3 17 6 30 37 .253 .330 .340 .670 77
2004 TOT 56 190 18 45 6 2 4 24 0 14 31 .263 .321 .392 .713 81
2004 ARI 38 125 14 34 5 2 3 16 0 12 18 .309 .382 .473 .855 116
2004 CHW 18 65 4 11 1 0 1 8 0 2 13 .180 .203 .246 .449 16
17 Seasons 2379 10400 1508 2724 504 80 210 1134 474 1032 1140 .300 .371 .443 .814 116
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Generated 1/5/2011.

Alomar's .300 career average and .814 career OPS aren't staggering in and of themselves. It's that Alomar was able to hit that well while allegedly serving as a phenomenal defensive second baseman that made him so valuable. Whether right or wrong, Alomar is considered by many to have been one of the best glovemen at second in baseball history. That would've made him a good player had he hit even just a little bit. Instead, he hit a lot, ranking 55th all-time in hits, 78th all-time in total bases, and 100th all-time in walks. A statistic called Wins Above Replacement, which takes into consideration both offensive and defensive value, ranks Alomar's career between those of Hall of Famers Al Simmons and Jackie Robinson.

Last year was Alomar's first year on the ballot, and he fell shy of election, as many voters wanted to punish him for a 1996 incident in which he spit at umpire John Hirschbeck during an on-field argument. However, the penalty was evidently to simply not allow Alomar first-ballot election, as today he became just the 26th player ever to receive at least 90% support. He becomes the 20th second baseman to enter the Hall.
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Congrats to Alomar. He did his time having to wait a year over misconduct, and got in on the next chance. Hopefully the Blue Jays will retire his number.

As for Blyleven, it was a long wait - he's borderline and gets in right on the edge (as he should), which is appropriate.

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Old 01-05-2011, 05:14 PM
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Fuking joke that they are still keeping Jack Morris out. Barry fuking Larkin got a higher % than him. It's about time Blyleven got in though.
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How do you not vote for Morris or Bagwell?
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Fuking joke that they are still keeping Jack Morris out. Barry fuking Larkin got a higher % than him. It's about time Blyleven got in though.
true - i believe Morris should have been first ballot...as well as Robbie.
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Congrats to Alomar. He did his time having to wait a year over misconduct, and got in on the next chance. Hopefully the Blue Jays will retire his number.

As for Blyleven, it was a long wait - he's borderline and gets in right on the edge (as he should), which is appropriate.
i am sure we will, we love him here.
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true - i believe Morris should have been first ballot...as well as Robbie.
Alomar certainly is a first ballot hall of famer, especially in a somewhat weak year for inductees. Blyleven deserves to be in but if I had to choose between him and Morris I'd say Morris deserves to go in first. Blyleven has a handful more wins and obviously more strikeouts but Morris has 4 rings, 3 more all star games, a world series MVP, and won more games than any pitcher in the 80s. It's a shame that he still isn't in the hall. Oh yeah he pretty much got ripped off of a Cy Young because Roger Clemens had some great years.
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Alomar certainly is a first ballot hall of famer, especially in a somewhat weak year for inductees. Blyleven deserves to be in but if I had to choose between him and Morris I'd say Morris deserves to go in first. Blyleven has a handful more wins and obviously more strikeouts but Morris has 4 rings, 3 more all star games, a world series MVP, and won more games than any pitcher in the 80s. It's a shame that he still isn't in the hall. Oh yeah he pretty much got ripped off of a Cy Young because Roger Clemens had some great years.
Alomar was second ballot - he failed in his bid last year because of the infamous spitting incident and its aftermath, much like what happened with Juan Marichal. Morris is extremely borderline imo. His supporters tend to focus more on his performance in the clutch than his overall stats. As for Larkin, I think he's overrated, but the numbers show he will eventually get in now.

Personally I'd elect Tim Raines and Edgar Martinez over any of the remainder.
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