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Old 12-28-2010, 11:33 PM
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Since you like copying Mayweather's let me give you one of their famous quotes.

YOu don't know sh1t about boxing. If you did, you'd know that Pacquiao has plenty of skill and isn't all brute strength. He isn't exactly a Arturo Gatti on Steroids.

He has tricky footwork, he gets in, throws his combination and SIDE-STEPS HIS OPPONENT before they can retaliate. This particularly works against stationary fighters like Clottey and Margarito.

Which is another thing most of you Pacquiao critics like to get into, criticizing his opposition. Which one is it, his quality of opposition or his Extra-ordinary abilities.....pick one and stick with it.
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Old 12-28-2010, 11:34 PM
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Now this is NOT a bait thread, serious question:

Has Floyd ever faced anyone with footwork and movement around the ring as good as Pac's?

We always hear about how Pac faces opponents who come straight forward and suit his style perfectly. Well Floyd is a counter puncher and fights against mostly orthodox "stand in front of you" fighters, I'd say that suits his style perfectly.

I'd be interested to see how he deals with an opponent who can get in from distance, give him crazy angles, flurry, score points and get out.

If anyone has any examples of this in Floyd's previous fights, please post a link!
can you explain "Good footwork"? Mannys got basic footwork, he gets by on slow opponents, his speed and endurance..
most of the time if you noticed, Manny is way off balance when he throws punches...
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Old 12-28-2010, 11:36 PM
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Since you like copying Mayweather's let me give you one of their famous quotes.

YOu don't know sh1t about boxing. If you did, you'd know that Pacquiao has plenty of skill and isn't all brute strength. He isn't exactly a Arturo Gatti on Steroids.

He has tricky footwork, he gets in, throws his combination and SIDE-STEPS HIS OPPONENT before they can retaliate. This particularly works against stationary fighters like Clottey and Margarito.

Which is another thing most of you Pacquiao critics like to get into, criticizing his opposition. Which one is it, his quality of opposition or his Extra-ordinary abilities.....pick one and stick with it.
Why is it not acceptable that it's both...??
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Old 12-28-2010, 11:36 PM
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PAC hasnt face............a cajones deficient fighter......LIKE money mayweather....................LOL
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Old 12-28-2010, 11:39 PM
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Why is it not acceptable that it's both...??
It isn't because than the story doesn't match. Either he is destroying bigger, stronger, super-tough opponents because of his Extraordinary abilities, which could be due to HGH.

OR

He isn't really destroying that much bigger opponents, yes there are those catchweights which potentially make them weaker and drain them, and all of a sudden it's not that impressive anymore and one could see how a Great but not On steroids great Pac could beat them the way he does.


The two aren't mutually exclusive.
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Old 12-28-2010, 11:42 PM
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can you explain "Good footwork"? Mannys got basic footwork, he gets by on slow opponents, his speed and endurance..
most of the time if you noticed, Manny is way off balance when he throws punches...
Basic footwork? I'm sorry but your an idiot and if someone has to explain to you what constitutes as good footwork, well that says a lot about you as a fan and your knowledge of the sport.
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Old 12-28-2010, 11:43 PM
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This is true, Hatton's footowork is overlooked and underrated. The guy has footspeed. His problem was no coordination with the upper body, too much lunging in with wild hooks etc,.

But yes he had very good footspeed and could get to Floyd much better than other opponents and crowd him.

This isn't a coincidence by the way, Hatton is a Soccer player.
This. Only Hatton gave Mayweather a hard time. Too much pressure.
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Old 12-28-2010, 11:49 PM
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Since you like copying Mayweather's let me give you one of their famous quotes.

YOu don't know sh1t about boxing. If you did, you'd know that Pacquiao has plenty of skill and isn't all brute strength. He isn't exactly a Arturo Gatti on Steroids.

He has tricky footwork, he gets in, throws his combination and SIDE-STEPS HIS OPPONENT before they can retaliate. This particularly works against stationary fighters like Clottey and Margarito.

Which is another thing most of you Pacquiao critics like to get into, criticizing his opposition. Which one is it, his quality of opposition or his Extra-ordinary abilities.....pick one and stick with it.
Spare me the boxing lecture. I know this aint no weight lifting contest. I am a boxing fan and been for a long time. You want to act like some stuff is normal when its not.Ok.
If it was normal all this talk would not even exist and Pac would be top 200 boxers. I seen his progression and understand what he got better at.
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Old 12-28-2010, 11:55 PM
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Spare me the boxing lecture. I know this aint no weight lifting contest. I am a boxing fan and been for a long time. You want to act like some stuff is normal when its not.Ok.
If it was normal all this talk would not even exist and Pac would be top 200 boxers. I seen his progression and understand what he got better at.
English please.

Top 200 what? If you understand what he has gotten better at tactically, then what is the issue.
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Old 12-29-2010, 12:01 AM
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manny's footwork isn't that good, don't play yourself--he appears to move good against pressure fighters who are slow---he hops in and out too much to look good against floyd--his upperbody movement is crucial in beating floyd and it's not good at all--in fact, it's pretty sh1tty--which is why he gets caught so much--how will manny stop floyd's timing? i just don't see how--manny hops in and out great but he leaves himself open a lot---manny has bad balance if you ask me but because the fighters he has fougth are not known for their timing, they don't take advantage of it--but trust me, floyd will find every opening on manny--

in fact, victoriano sosa had better footwork and movement than manny did--just watch the fight--he moved his head better--better timer--better movement overall than manny--

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