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Old 12-25-2010, 02:47 PM
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I personally don't even partially agree with most of that list.
Jofre at 36 is a disaster.
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Old 12-25-2010, 03:06 PM
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Okay ?, that list is not going to change anything, cannot agree with half of it anyway and to be honest I'm surprised you do Sonny, where's Bob Fitzsimmons ?, Marciano at 14 ?, Archie Moore and Ezzard Charles at 26 and 27 ?, Morales at 49 ?.

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This list was compiled in 2007. At that time, Manny Pacquiao had not yet fought - and beaten - Marco Antonio Barrera, Juan Manual Marquez (rematch), David Diaz, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton and Miguel Cotto.
Pac beat MAB in 2003 , they got the date wrong on Pac's greatest win.

Also again because I know you're a fan on Monte Cox, Sonny :
http://coxscorner.tripod.com/divisional_ratings.html

There's Jofre #1 at Bantam and he, Wilde along with Leonard and Fitzsimmons are actually competing for Cox's #10 on his ATG list
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Okay ?, that list is not going to change anything, cannot agree with half of it anyway and to be honest I'm surprised you do Sonny, where's Bob Fitzsimmons ?, Marciano at 14 ?, Archie Moore and Ezzard Charles at 26 and 27 ?, Morales at 49 ?.

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Pac beat MAB in 2003 , they got the date wrong on Pac's greatest win.

Also again because I know you're a fan on Monte Cox, Sonny :
http://coxscorner.tripod.com/divisional_ratings.html

There's Jofre #1 at Bantam and he, Wilde along with Leonard and Fitzsimmons are actually competing for Cox's #10 on his ATG list
That is an amazing resource, thanks for posting.
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I would consider his BW era easily one of the greatest ever.
Fighting Harada was probably his most outstanding opponent though, and Jofre lost.

Jofre's competition is up there with any other bantamweight though, but that's mainly because historically the bantamweights have never truly had many outstanding rivals to compete against.
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I'd say it's close, but I do think Wilde is the greater fighter of the two. Wilde was a pure freak of nature.
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