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The fact that you find it fitting to blame him for his lack of real competition shows how biased your entire post is going to turn out to begin with. But, regardless of that, let's assume they all sucked. He continued to pick them apart and beat his mandatory opponents and was undefeated AT THE TOP OF HIS DIVISION for over a decade.
Name another fighter that can make that claim. Either while Hopkins did it or now, for that matter. 10 ****ing years, plus. Not 8 years. Not 7 or 6. 10 PLUS.
Name another man with ANY TITLE for more than 10 years in the last 20 years. ANY FIGHTER. Then, weed out the champions that are less then 35 years old. Then, weed out the guys that never gained the TRUE championship in their divisions.
You can argue all you want about how little competition there is/was, the fact of the matter is that anybody who looked decent during his run, Hopkins made them look pathetic.
As far as the blown up Welterweight comment. Jesus, kid. Grow the **** up. Name a top level fighter that didn't face someone that had a big name coming up.
De La Hoya has done it. Felix Trinidad has done it. Julio Cesar Chavez did it. For Christ's sake, Marvin Hagler (in the same division as Hopkins, no less) had two of his biggest fights with natural Welterweights.
The difference between Hopkins and the aforementioned fighters? Hopkins was able to suffer a set back after a decade of dominance or so, and move up and immediately challenge and beat the TRUE Light Heavyweight champion of the world. You know, that whole thing.
- 20 plus years active fighting, the majority of those years at the top of the game. At the very least, half of those years.
- A decade of being the very best in your division and beating everyone you faced, unifying the titles for the first time in years and keeping them that way until you lost two close fights back to back to a much younger man.
- He has held both the TRUE Middleweight championship and the TRUE Light Heavyweight championship. He also could have reasonably won both of them back, with a rematch that could have gone either way against Taylor and with the Pascal fight last night, respectively.
Name another fighter with similar accomplishments. Not just in the last few decades. I'm talking about, EVER.
Name ANYONE. I don't care how weak their divisions were. How bad the champions fought. How poor the competition was. Name.... ANYONE. With even SIMILAR accomplishments. I guarantee you don't have more then 5 names that genuinely stack up. If that.
Oscar De La Hoya
Roy Jones (twice)
Jermain Taylor (twice)
Note, I left out all the top contenders at Middleweight that he faced. You know, the highest ranked guys that he continued to dominate on a regular basis.
His record against these fighters?
7(4) - 4 - 1. I don't care who was old, or who was smaller. ALL FIGHTERS HAVE FACED SIMILAR OPPONENTS WITH SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCES.
Pavlik has not looked the same. Only man to stop Trinidad and Johnson. First man to stop De La Hoya. Even when Jones beat him, he looked ordinary and when he moved up to face Tarver, he didn't lose a single, solitary round. Not one. Also, aside from the two flash knockdowns last night, none of these guys came close to dropping him/hurting him.
He also could make a case for almost all of his losses except two.
I get that he's a polarizing figure, and a lot of people simply don't like the man.
But, these aren't really opinions. This is what he's done.
I'm not asking for ANY other kind of response except one...... show me someone who matches him. The more recent, the more respectable the reply will be.
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